Re: Abandonware petition

[William Katz <wkatz@nyx.net>]

Justin,
I tried to email you a response to your post since I might be moving off
topic here, but obviously djnospam@impakt.net is not your email address :)
Anyway, here is my followup to you:

Hi there!
It would be nice to have 'all'? the Apple // software available to
download somewhere. I have quite a few floppy disks (5 1/4") of programs
for my Apple //e, and just recently I have been using my //e more often. I
guess I got nostalgic... I even ordered a 170mb FocusDrive for it the
other day!

Anyway, the reason I am emailing you is because of the last line of your
post. Your //e is connected to the serial console of my unix server? I
assume you use ProTERM or a similar comm program to communicate with the
unix server?
I am actually trying to do this myself. What I have successfully done is
connect my //e to my m$-dos computer (via null modem cable - actually i
use a standard straight-through cable and switch the Jumper Block to
'Terminal' on my Apple Super Serial Card). I use ProTERM on my //e and
Telix on my older 486 msdos computer, and transfer files at 19,200 bps
just fine (via zmodem).
The serial connection is:
'slot 2' on my Apple //e <--> comm port 2 on my 486 computer (msdos/sco)

While this works fine, I would like to do the same thing with my SCO UNIX
(OpenServer 5.0.2) partition on my same 486 computer.

I leave the connection between the two computers the same for //e<-->SCO,
but when I hit return on the 'connect' button in ProTERM on my //e, it
goes to the terminal screen, then immediately back to the main menu.
I then tried a similar situation with my //e <--> SCO as I did with my
//e<-->msdos... I loaded minicom on my SCO box and the connection was just
fine. minicom is a comm program for unix, that is very similar to Telix
for msdos.

Do you think I can do this? and if so, how? :)  Have a sco unix shell
session from my //e computer? Of course my sco box, which is a 486
computer, does not have a console port, but maybe this can be done via the
serial port? (com2)  Would I have to edit my /etc/inittab file?
I appreciate any help.
Thank you.
William



Justin Scott <djnospam@impakt.net> wrote:
: Cturley2 <cturley2@aol.com> wrote:
:> Thanks for the reply above Brendon.  Copy II+ for the Apple II series is an
:> old and valued utility program that many Apple II users can SOON find for
:> public access and download from my web site in the folder named:
:> 
:> http://www.apple2.net/gswv/A2.LOST.N.FOUND.CLASSICS/

: Of course don't forget ftp://ftp.apple.asimov.net

: Tons of software is archived here, including Copy ][+ which resides in the
: /pub/apple_II/images/utility/disk_utils directory.  

: I can understand everyone's concern over copyrights and such.  

: Personally, I'm not asking that anyone give up their rights to the software, 
: just don't prosecute those who are trying to preserve the computing history 
: that is fading into oblivion.

: There really isn't much of a market in historical retrocomputing software
: packages.  So long as people don't sell a COPY of the program, no damage is
: really done, as most of these people/companies haven't made a penny on any of
: this software in 15+ years. 

: Allowing distribution of old software (even when the copyrights are still held)
: doesn't do any serious harm to a company (that I can see).  It allows people
: who either A) Had an apple long ago, and recently picked one up for nostalgic
: reasons, B) Never had an apple, but collect computers for historical reasons,
: or C) who never experienced using these antiques --- It allows them all a
: chance to see a broad representation of the capabilities of these machines.

: In 300 years, if any of our gear still powers on, it will be useless as a
: historical artifact without software.  Do the world a favor, and allow the bits
: to be distributed without litigation against those who are preserving our
: history.

: Apple ][: Forever!  

: (Written on a //e connected to the serial console of my unix server)

: cheers,
: j