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I read a Catholic bible that specifically dated
creation as 4004 bc.

Paul Schlyter wrote:

> In article <3A821F05.2356E9A@inetnebr.com>,
> Roy and/or Janet Miller  <millers@inetnebr.com> wrote:
>
> > Paul Schlyter wrote:
> >
> >> In article <3A7F793B.20DB2313@inetnebr.com>,
> >> Roy and/or Janet Miller  <millers@inetnebr.com> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I can give more facts, but the short answer is this: for more
> >>> than two centuries, people have assumed the Bible to be unreliable,
> >>> but when tested it has stood.
> >>
> >> Not quite.  For instance, the universe wasn't created exactly as
> >> described in Genesis...
> >
> > There are two problems with your statement. The first shows that your
> > own understanding of Genesis is as flawed as those who believe the
> > universe is only 25,000 years old.
>
> Wasn't it some 6,000 years?  To the Jews, it's now year 5761, and
> they count their years from the "creation of the world" according to
> Genesis.  And over the years I've encountered a number of fundamental
> Christians who've seriously claimed the world is only some 6,000
> years old.  One of them even published papers, where he attempted to
> "explain" how light could travel over billions of light years in only
> 6,000 years (his idea was that light travelled millions of times
> faster than now only a few thousand years ago, and then "slowed down"
> to the corrent light speed just when we became able to measure the
> speed of light).
>
> From where did you get your figure 25,000 years?
>
> > Genesis 1:1 -2:3 presents creation in two sets of three days, the
> > second set filling out the details of the first set, and all
> > leading to the seventh day as a day of rest. This account presents
> > the creator as El in the plural form (often seen as a plural of
> > majesty, but it also has other functions.) El was the supreme god of the
> > pantheon of the Ancient Near East, and one of the functions of the
> > passage is to show that El is the only true God, and the creator God.
> > Another function is very important, and almost never noticed by those
> > with a Western (read Greek) approach. A greek mindset is concerned with
> > origins, and how things have come to be. But if you were a former slave
> > in Egypt (or your father was) and you are about to invade a land where
> > you are out numbered, where the enemy is vastly superior to you in
> > technology, esp the technology of war (walled cities, and you have no
> > machines of war, nor the technology to construct such) what you are
> > interested in is can this God who is leading you in this war, lead you to
> > victory, or to death? In short, not a theoretical approach, but a very
> > pragmatic approach. What Genesis 1:1 - 2:3 shows is that in every sphere
> > El is the creator and master, in the air, over the sea, as well as land.
> > The interesting thing is that the second account (beginning at Genesis
> > 2:4) presents a creation of one day, and the creator is still El, but
> > appended to El is Yahweh, the name by which El entered into covenant with
> > Israel. In short, the creator is the God who redeemed Israel from Egypt,
> > and who will lead Israel to defeat the armies of Canaan.
> >
> > The other problem with your statement is that science can not make such a
> > statement as you have made. Since no one was there, and creation is not a
> > repeatable event, one cannot say for certain that the model now being
> > presented is what really happened. Even in my own lifetime other models
> > had once been taught. However unlikely (science can be as bad as religion
> > when it comes to orthodoxy), it is possible that a new model could
> > replace the current one.
> >
> > But again, Genesis doesn't say HOW, it says WHO.
>
>
> BTW there is another serious problem with Genesis:
>
> First Adam appeared, then Eve appeared.  They got two sons, Kain and
> Abel.  Kain killed Abel.  Later they got a third son, Seth.
>
> Suddenly, out of nowhere, Kain and Seth have wives, with whom they get
> kids -- and out of that mankind grew.
>
> From where did the wives of Kain and Seth come ?  There were no other
> humans on Earth at that time, according to Genesis....
>
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