Re: Source Code for OS?

[pausch@saaf.se (Paul Schlyter)]

In article <3A7A1C2E.FE63DAFC@inetnebr.com>,
Roy and/or Janet Miller  <millers@inetnebr.com> wrote:
 
> Paul Schlyter wrote:
> 
>>> Paul S. and I certainly have some differing opinions/beliefs; after all
>>> he's announced that he's an agnostic, and I hold to historic Reformed
>>> Theology (hence, I believe in a real hell),
>>
>> Well I too believe in a real hell: it exists here and there, now and
>> then, here on Earth.  For instance at the fronts of WW 1, or in the
>> concentration camps of the Nazi's, or during the homocides in Rwanda
>> or in the Balkan during the last decade, or in Europe during the
>> "Black Death" some centuries ago, or after that meteorite fall
>> some 65 million years ago which killed the dionsaurs.
> 
> That isn't what "hell" is. Those are horrors.
 
What's the difference, really?  Isn't the very purpose of hell to be
perceived as the ultimate of horrors, in order to scare people into
obedience?
 
>> There's absolutely no need to invent a theological hell
> 
> and who do you think "invented" a "theological hell?" You might be surprised.
 
I guess some early Christian priest did, such as Matthew, Marke, Luke
or John, or maybe someone else.  Or perhaps Christianity inherited
the concept of hell from Judaism?  I'm not that familiar with the
Torah, so I don't really know...
 
>> -- mankind is
>> perfectly able to create a "good enough" hell already here on Earth!
>>
>> Of course this is just my belief, and I may be wrong.  And if I am
>> wrong, I'll probably end up in hell for that....
>>
>>
>> BTW what kind of hell do you believe in?
> 
> Sheol/Hades is a place for the incarceration of the immaterial portion of
> humans. Hence, though real, it does not necessarily have a physical location.
 
Isn't Hades a pagan concept?
 
> Gehenna/Lake of Fire is a place of incarceration of resurrected humans.
> Hence, it does have a physical location (where I have no idea) Biblical data
> is *very* limited. Heat, darkness, suffering, both physical and nonphysical
> is about all that we know, with the exception that it was not created
> initially for human beings, but as a punishment for the fallen angels. Dante,
> et al, have exercised literary license in their works.
 
Isn't the Lord merciful?  Really really merciful....  :-)))))
 
>> Something like Dante's hell, where being burnt at the stake by an
>> earthly fire would feel just like a tickle compared to the fires
>> in hell?  Or do you consider hell to be merely "absence of God"?
>> If the latter, then I and all other non-believers are already
>> living in hell....
> 
> Absence from God is part of the nonphysical punishment. And you
> are right, fallen humans are, in that sense already living in hell.
> Nice observation.
 
If so, let me report that hell is a quite nice place to dwell in.  I
think I prefer it over heaven, where you're just supposed to sit on
some cloud in a blue sky and play the harp in eternity.... :-))))
 
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