Bev, you've got it backwards. Quantum_Cat is most definetly anti-pirating, and always has been. It's been, as he calls them, the Turlettes, that are and have been pro-piracy, especially in their very torturous circular logic trying to explain why pirating is ok. So: The Kitty: Good. The Turlettes: Bad. I hope this helps. :) Penman