Re: Supplying 'getting started' software

[ladyphoenixxii@my-deja.com]

In article <8gkvon$fbs$1@nnrp1.deja.com>,
  ladyphoenixxii@my-deja.com wrote:
> In article <392C293D.B9DEA04D@swbell.net>,
>   rubywand@swbell.net wrote:
> >
> >      As we get more and more new and returning users, it is certain that there
> > will be more postings requesting software to get started.
> >
> >      At one time, local users' groups were everywhere and they took care of
> > supplying newbies with bootable DOS 3.3 and ProDOS diskettes plus basic
> > utilities to handle copying and other disk management functions. Since this is
> > no longer the case, ways to obtain the software via net downloads and transfers
> > have been developed.
> >
> >      Even so, there is no getting around the fact that starting from scratch
> > via net downloads can be a discouraging process. Some new users may enjoy the
> > 'adventure' but others are likely to feel that it is too much bother.
> >
> >      Really, there is no good reason to insist that new users immediately
> > become skilled in doing NULL modem transfers and/or hunt for individuals who
> > will send diskettes. There should be some clear, easy way for users to obtain
> > basic startup software on disk via mail at a sane price.
> >
> >      By "basic startup software" I mean items such as ...
> >
> > DOS 3.3
> >
> > DOS 3.3 System Master disk
> > DOS 3.3 BASICS disk
> > Disk Muncher for quick disk diplication
> > a Joystick checker/adjustment utility
> > a simple program selector HELLO
> > a Text displayer to display docs in Text files
> >
> > ProDOS
> >
> > ProDOS v1.9 with ProDOS Utilities
> > a simple program selector STARTUP
> > a Text displayer to display docs in Text files
> > ShrinkIt v3.4 plus Shrink and Unshrink for 64k Apple II's
> > ADT v1.22, ADTcomm, and ADTgs for disk image transfers
> > DSK2FILE for handling disk images
> > Copy II Plus v7.x for general disk management
> > Modem MGR for general file transfers
> >
> >      Others may have different ideas about what should be included. So, what
> > software should be in a 'getting started' package and how should we arrange for
> > getting the diskettes to new users?
>
> I've been re-elected to head GSAUG's GS SIG.  Do to the slow attrition of GS
> owners attending meetings it's become obvious that we need to do something
> that would benefit people who can't or don't want to go online.  Software by
> itself isairly easyo come by but written instructions or videos would be
> important too.	I took note of your request for such software last year.  One
> of the problems that I have addressed with the GSAUG board is that we have an
> aggreement with Apple Inc to sell systemoftware only to GSAUG members.	And I
> want to get permission to copy the system 6.0.1 manual.  We also honor stware
> copywrite.  I will talk to our disk librarian about putting together a disk
> such as you propose.  Until we get the go ahead from Apple it will be
> available only to members ($25 per annum).  We have a GS disk library of
> almost 500 3.5" disks.	We are looking to acquire a copy of the
> Sacramento/Davis library.  And we have II/c,IIe,IIc+ library as well as the
> Mac library which is offering CDs now.
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