Re: Apple ][ plus - no OS

[jonINTERNETrelayCHAT@napaVALLEYnet.CLARInet (Jon Bettencourt)]

In article <38d4e988@flexnet239.uunt.net>, lemonjimm@NONONOhotmail.com
(Jim L.) wrote:

> Hi all, I just acquired a 1979 Apple 2 plus machine with 2 5.25" floppy
drives 
> (made by �sci, with card) and a Zenith data systems monitor and no software.  
> I can get it to start in Applesoft Basic even though the drive spins, I just 
> hit reset.  How can I get my hands on an OS (I think 3.3)?  How can I get any 
> software or blank discs?  I also have a PC connected to the internet.

Go to http://www.grin.net/~cturley/gsezine/GS.WorldView/v2000/Mar/MiscNew/
and scroll down until you find dos33dmp.zip and dos33dmpinfo.txt. These
two files will allow you to create a working DOS 3.3 boot disk for your
Apple II+. You'll need to create a link between your PC and the Apple II+
with a serial card.

> Would any of these solutions work?
> Get an external 5.25 drive for my PC and download Apple disk images to it.

Nope. PC drives and Apple drives use different encoding schemes for
storing data on floppy disks.

> Get a 3.5 drive for the Apple 2 (I think I need a card)

Yes, this will work, if you want ProDOS. DOS 3.3 doesn't work with 3.5
inch floppy disks. There was a version of DOS that could use 400K disks,
but no more than that.

You will need to get a card. If you want a UniDisk drive, you'll need to
get a UniDisk controller for it. Most other 3.5 drives can be connected to
a card called the UDC (Universal Disk Controller). Whatever card you
decide to use will go in slot 5.

> Or possibly connect the Apple to the PC via serial cable (I think I
would need 
> a card, the only 'ports' are for cassette and the monitor)

Yes, this would work. You'll need to do this if you want to get DOS 3.3 on
a disk using the dos33dmp files.

Yes, you'll need a card. There are several serial cards you can use. The
most common one is called a Super Serial Card. If you go onto eBay, you
might be able to find a serial card (or, better yet, an Apple IIgs, which
can run just about everything an Apple II+ can and has built-in serial,
mouse, and disk "cards," a faster and more advanced processor, and better
sound and graphics).

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