The ground "mirrors" that you gave were not valid... In article <3890FB0C.456D5E41@dcnet2000.com>, Phoenyx <quazar@dcnet2000.com> wrote: >John wrote: >> >> And those would be???? >> > >try these sites > >http://tarnover.dyndns.org/ This server can not be reached... >ftp://happypup.dhs.org/ This server can not be reached... >ftp://24.96.48.134:6502/ This server can not be reached... > >Phoenyx