Re: Accidental cross-posting

[phoenyx <quazar@dcnet2000.com>]

Jeff Blakeney wrote:

> Well, had you been kind enough to the readers of this newsgroup, you
> would have conducted the help either in a more appropriate newsgroup
> (comp.emulators.apple2 comes immediately to mind) or in e-mail.  It
> wouldn't have been an issue if you had done so.  :-)
>
> If an emulator user has Apple II related questions they are more than
> welcome to post them here but problems with installing and/or setting
> up a program under Windows NT doesn't belong here.  It should be in a
> Windows NT newsgroup or a newsgroup related to that program.  I know
> myself and many others that read this newsgroup do not use Windows NT
> so we gain nothing by reading that thread.
>

If I understand correctly, I should not help someone who is a little
confused about where to post until they have posted in the correct
group. Yeah, right!

I don't use NT either, although I have. I thought someone else might
benefit from the thread since other people do use NT.  I was under
the assumption that this was a generic Apple2 news group. Perhaps
I was mistaken.

Personally, I don't care about cross posting. If I find a thread I'm
not interested in I simply ignore it. Unfortunately there are people
who aren't capable of doing this. Instead they rant and rave and
threaten people.


> When it comes right down to it, would your first impulse be to come to
> comp.sys.apple2 to ask a Windows related question?  Hopefully you
> would answer no.  There is no reason why we should encourage others to
> think of comp.sys.apple2 as the "jack of all newsgroups."  :-)
>

If I had to ask a Windows question, I am reasonably certain I would know
where to go. If I had to ask a question about running an Apple2 emulator
I would try to go where I think the most emulator users would be. If I
was new to computers I might go to the first newsgroup I find with the
largest reader base. So much for logic.

>
> >I miss the days when Apple2 users were friendly and helpful.
> >There has been so much bitterness in the wars in this news
> >group, many have become defensive or abusive to all but a
> >chosen few they deign to call friends.
>
> Maybe I'm just skipping over the bad messages or something but I don't
> see many nasty messages posted to the comp.sys.apple2.* newsgroups.
> There are flare ups every so often by the same people who just don't
> like each other but they don't happen often and it is really easy to
> ignore them.  :-)

Luckily, there have been fewer of these messages lately.

> >One of the benefits of
> >using newsgroups is the ability to meet new people, to make
> >new friends.
>
> I've never intentionally used newsgroups to meet new people or to make
> friends.  I use them to get information and help and to give
> information and help.  If I happen to strike up an online friendship
> (which I can't really say I have) because of posts in a newsgroup, I
> would just consider it a bonus.  :-)
>

Too bad for you, I have met several new friends which share the same
interests as I do. These relationships enrich my hobby and I am glad
to have them.

> >If we treat the newcomers with courtesy and
> >whatever help we can, not only do we gain a friend, perhaps
> >that person will hang around and see what makes Apple II
> >users so great.
>
> How are we not treating newcomers with courtesy?  Yes, we direct
> people who have stumbled into the wrong newsgroups to the appropriate
> newsgroups but what is wrong with that?  After all, a Mac user will
> get much better help for their questions in a Mac newsgroup than they
> will here.  Even though some of the readers here also have Macs (I
> have one but know very little about it) there will be lots more Mac
> users in the Mac newsgroups with a much wider range of experience and
> expertise.  Not pointing them to the appropriate newsgroup would be
> doing them a disservice, in my opinion.
>
> By the way, if no one takes it upon themselves to teach "newbies"
> about proper netiquette, how will they even know they are doing
> something wrong or learn the right way to do things?
>

I said "if we treat newcomers with courtesy", I did not say any thing
about having treated others badly. Do you feel it is your place to correct
the netiquette of others? I'm glad I don't have that responsibility.

> >And maybe we can convert another lost
> >soul to our cause and increase the Apple2 user base in the
> >process.
>
> The chances of "converting" someone who stumbles in here by mistake
> into an Apple II user I feel are slim to none, unfortunately.  I'd be
> more that happy to find out I was wrong, though.  :-)
>

Unfortunately you are right. And with the "netiquette" of some people
this becomes a self fulfilling prophesy.

Originally this was supposed to be a sarcastic thread. It seems many
readers here take themselves too seriously.

Phoenyx