Re: Pirates of Silicon Valley

["A.Koch" <rkoch@optonline.net>]

It is true that Mac was developing the mac OS before Jobs and co went on their field trip to Xerox
PARC. This was due to the efforts of the Mac's father, a man named Jeff Raskin. Raskin worked (or
was interning, I don't remember which) at PARC at about the time the the GUI project started. He
learned some of the preliminary features and went to Apple soon after it was formed. He was placed
in charge of the original Mac team(1978). From there Apple started to develop their own GUI (Apple's
GUI was being developed while Xerox was essentially finishing theirs off) . It was only later when
Jobs thought that the idea of the GUI was half baked did the engineers go to PARC. There Jobs
changed his mind after seeing the Xerox GUI and allowed the Mac team to go full force. Besides Apple
gave Xerox stock for the visit and most of the PARC employees were working for Apple within a year.

Mike wrote:

> Mike Pike wrote:
>
> > That's not entirely true.... apple had started their own GUI at the same
> > time, if not before Xerox.... they simply used Xerox to show Jobs what it
> > was capable of doing - or so I am told...
>
> Where do you get this from ?
>
> According to the words from Steve Jobs and Woz's own mouths - they were
> absolutely *blown* away when they saw Xerox's GUI, and they dragged half of
> the Apple engineers down to PARC soon after to see a GUI for the **first**
> time.
>
> Suggesting that Apple engineers / programmers were already working on a GUI
> *before* Xerox started working on theirs is simply utter bullshit.  According
> to Cringeley's book and other books I have read, Xerox had the Alto built and
> the GUI developed *before* Apple was even formed.
>
> Suggesting that Apple engineers / programmers were already working on a GUI
> before Jobs became aware of the Xerox GUI is also simply utter bullshit.
>
> Get your facts straight !
>
> Mike O'Malley
>
> > Scott R. Ehrlich (sehrlich@shore.net) wrote:
> > : Let's not forget some basic facts from the past:
> > :
> > : - Mac got its GUI start from Xerox PARC, because Xerox could not market
> > : their inventions (including the mouse)
> > :
> > : - Gates got his start from buying CP/M and modifying it into DOS for the
> > : consumer market
> > :
> > :
> > : At least Apple built their Apple II series computers (from scratch?).
> > : Gates flat-out took what existed and modified it.
> > :

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