Re: Pirates of Silicon Valley

["Robert R. Dell" <robertdell@sprintmail.com>]

phoenyx wrote:

> Forrest wrote:
>
> > phoenyx <phoenyx@texas.net> wrote :
> > > Well, I'm curious about something. How did Apple get a copyright from
> > Microsoft
> > > for Applesoft basic. On my //c (march 1984 / pre mac) there is a microsoft
> > > registration marker. The show made it sound like Apple didn't even deal
> > with
> > > Microsoft until the Mac.
> >
> > Mac predated //c.
> > In the beginning there was Integer BASIC.  Apple wanted something more
> > sophisticated; after Woz abandoned his own FP BASIC project (some of which I
> > think was released in Programmer's Aid #1, but not integrated into the
> > language), and after a short fling with the contractor who wrote rather a lot
> > of DOS ("Notzo BASIC"), they ended up licensing the 8080 source code to MS
> > Basic way back around 1978 and rewrote it in-house for the 6502, adding in
> > the HIRES routines at the same time.

Note: they didn't LICENSE it, they BOUGHT itfrom microsoft and it was made by Microsoft specificly for Apple as a one-time sale instead of ongoing license.  Hence the word "Applesoft" BASIC.
Later Apple came out with 16 sector floppies instead of 13 sector floppies (which made a lot of people real mad).

>
> >
> > >I think the portrayal of Jobs is sorta accurate
> >
> > Although they left out the charisma.  If a theatrical movie ever comes out
> > (it could; there's drama enough for two or three movies about Apple) I'd cast
> > Tom Cruise -- he's got the Stare.
>
> Actually I knew all that. I was being sarcastic as the movie made it seem like
> Apple and Microsoft had very limited relations. Just how I saw it.
>
> Phoenyx