Re: Pirates of Silicon Valley

["David" <iamdavid@iname.com>]

In article <m_Le3.82$Ob7.1906@client>, !smentzer@ecom.net (Steve Mentzer) 
wrote:


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>>How can you say that Gates has kept quality very high...... Win98 was a
>>2000+ bug fix of Win95 and Win2k a 5000 Bug fix of Win98. That's very  high
>>quality????? You are easily pleased.
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> Repeat after me:  I believe all the media hype I hear. I am a drone. I believe
> all the media hype I hear.
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> BTW: Yes, there were bugfixes in Win98, but there was also a TON of new
> functionality. Look under the hood and you will see...
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> Win2k is a 5000 bug fix of Win98?? Hey moron! Win2k uses the NT kernel/code.
It
> is basically WinNT 4.0 with all the features of Win98. Win98 and Win2k do not
> share the same lineage or code base.... understand???

Sure I understand..... (aren't we getting a bit het up here..) My point
is/was that each time Microsoft releases a new version of their "OS", it
introduces more bugs than it fixes..... true!

So what that Win2k is not a direct upgrade of Win98, that is irrelevant. You
miss the point again. The fact is that they have to address over 5000 things
from Win98's functionality in order to bring it to a reasonable standard
whatever kernel or code they are going to use. EVERY software developer
needs to release bug fixes, I do not deny that, Apple are no different, but
there are degrees of acceptability that Microsoft run over rough-shod, in
order to get their products in the market place. Someone in this thread said
that the MS philosophy was to release a first version with all the bugs and
improve on it so that by the third version it was a clean efficient program.
(This was from one of the MS drones, not a Machead!). It says it all really.
Win95, followed by Win98..... maybe Win2K WILL be a good OS.
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>>Whilst it is
>>true that later versions of the MacOS tend to get bloated, this can be
>>avoided with prudent installations, and it is only Microsoft programs that
>>drop all sorts of crap in the system folder without an installer log file so
>>you can find it all later.
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> Bullshit. All reputable applications these days keep uninstaller logs so they
> can remove any DLL they install into the system folders.

I have never removed a program from a WIn95/98 system and had it all
deleted.. ever. And the uninstall is supposed to delete registry entries,
yet if you look after an uninstall they are usually still there.
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>>In general, all the parts of an installation are
>>placed with an application in its folder. I was asked by someone why there
>>isn't and uninstaller bundled with the MacOS, and when I showed that that
>>all you have to do to delete a program from the machine was to delete its
>>folder and it preferences, they were amazed.
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> You and I both know that this is NOT always the case with mac software. Stop
> trying to whitewash the issue.

I agree it is not the case with ALL Mac software, but it is more often the
case than not, no need to whitewash an issue like that.

Have a nice day!
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