Re: Help with Sys 5 for IIGS-- Getting ShrinkIt

["David Kachel" <dkphoto@cyber-wire.com>]

I appreciate your willingness to help, but you seem to be saying that Shrink
II, a Mac file, cannot be transmitted over the internet unless it is
compressed by Shrinkit, a IIgs file. Since my whole point is simply to get a
system floppy for the IIgs, plainly I cannot unstuff anything with Shrinkit.
If I could, it would mean that the IIgs was running, in which case I
wouldn't need a system!!!

If someone out there would please copy system 5 or 6 for the IIgs to a
ProDos 3-1/2 inch floppy, take it to their Mac, stuff it and email it to me
or post it somewhere that I can download it, I would be very grateful. This
business of putting everything in a format that requires a utility that is
either impossible or very difficult to find, and then packing that utility
with itself, guaranteeing that anyone who NEEDS to unpack it, couldn't
possibly, is beyond my grasp. It's a bit like packing a suitcase and putting
the keys INSIDE the suitcase... hard to understand!

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In article <375CEAEC.AF665EB@swbell.net>, Rubywand <rubywand@swbell.net>
wrote:


>  Yes; it does look like a Catch-22 situation. The main reason ShrinkIt v3.4 is
> not maintained as a non-shrinked file is that it would need a Binary II prefix
in
> order to retain filetype. Users whose telecom software does not handle Binary
II
> prefixes would need some other utility to strip off the prefix and obtain a
> ShrinkIt which would execute.
>
>      A non-shrinked ShrinkIt v3.4 with no Binary II prefix could be downloaded
(or
> the PC version of NuLib v3.24 or v3.25 could be used to unshrink the
> ShrinkIt34.shk file). However, once transferred to your Apple II, it would,
most
> likely, arrive as a Text type file. Since the file is too large to BLOAD and
BSAVE
> as a type .sys file, you would need a filetype changer program or a utility
for
> directly modifying the block containing the file's directory entry.
>
>      Once again, you run into a special situation-- i.e. a user who has a
filetype
> changer program or a block editor but does not have ShrinkIt.
>
>      Besides which, ShrinkIt v3.4 consists of two .sys files: a small startup
> program usually named "ShrinkitST.sys" and the main program which must be
named
> "Shrinkit" (unless you want to modify ShrinkitST.sys).
>
>
> (Note: _If_ you already have DSK2FILE or some other A2 utility for converting
disk
> image files to diskette, you could download ShrinkItsDSK.bin. This is a ProDOS
> disk image file which contains various useful utilities including ShrinkIt
v3.4.)
>
>
>      To avoid confusion, it is best to archive files in the simplest way
possible.
> In the case of ShrinkIt v3.4 this is as a single .shk file.
>
>      A fairly easy way to get ShrinkIt 3.4 going on your Apple II if you do
not
> already have some version of ShrinkIt is to transfer ShrinkIt34.shk and
> Shk34Docs.shk along with UNSHRINK and the SHRINK2PLUS.TXT directions.
(UNSHRINK is
> an earlier, smaller non-shrinked version of ShrinkIt which just unshrinks
files.)
>      Follow the directions in SHRINK2PLUS.TXT to get UNSHRINK going. Use
UNSHRINK
> to unshrink ShrinkIt34.shk.
>
>      You can find all of this stuff on Apple Cabi.net or on the new Tarnover
site: