Re: II+ vs IIe (was Re: Apple IIe working?)

[dempson@actrix.gen.nz (David Empson)]

Rubywand <rubywand@swbell.net> wrote:

> David Empson writes ...
> > 
> > Rubywand <rubywand@swbell.net> wrote:
> > 
> > > Given the "Apple ][" display, this sounds like the normal startup for
> > > a II+.
> > 
> > Haven't we had this discussion recently?  An Apple ][+ has a boot
> > heading of "APPLE ][".
> 
> ??? That appears to be what I said.

You said "Apple ][".  I said "APPLE ][".  Your example was mixed case,
mine uppercase only.

> > If it is mixed case, then it must be a IIe, and this is what the
> > original poster indicated he was looking to buy.
> 
>     Well, yes. However, the "Apple ][" comes from a description by the user of
> the startup screen of a currently owned machine.

No, it was a IIe he was thinking of buying.  Quote from original
article, first paragraph:

In article <7cosa7$rgl$1@nnrp1.dejanews.com>,
<softshare@my-dejanews.com> wrote:

> I'm interested in buying an Apple IIe for my collection of 80's computers,
> but I need help knowing if the two I'm looking at are working properly.

<end quote, back to Rubywand>

> > The ][+ also needs CTRL-RESET.  Only early original Apple ][ machines
> > were able to be reset with RESET by itself.
> 
>      Our 1981 II+ and every other II+ I've seen came with a plain Reset.
> Possibly the Control-Reset feature was added towards the end of the II+
> production cycle.

Every Apple ][+ we had at high school (first one bought in 1980, which I
was using in '81) required Ctrl-Reset.  At least the first two had a
switch on the underside of the keyboard to select whether CTRL was
needed.  I didn't look as closely at the later ones (we got five newer
ones in '82, which were replaced by IIe machines in '83).

This _might_ have been an international vs US issue, but I'm not sure if
there was an international version of the II+ (apart from changing the
power supply to 220/240V).  They didn't generate PAL video - you had to
add a card for that.

By comparison, the international IIe has a different keyboard layout,
PAL video (if appropriate), and runs at a slightly different frequency
to comply with PAL.

-- 
David Empson
dempson@actrix.gen.nz
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