Re: CDR's & MP3 for GS???

[supertimer@aol.com (Supertimer)]

spec@vax2.concordia.ca (Mitchell Spector) wrote:

>In article supertimer@aol.com (Supertimer) writes...
>
>>>    Now we can listen to the audio, right? Wrong. Even though
>>>you would now have an 8-bit, 44 kHz, stereo audio file, it
>>>would be several megabytes large, so you would need a program
>>>that could spool the file in and out of memory as it played
>>>(most GS players want to load the entire waveform into memory
>>>before playing it, and 4-8 MB would not be enough). I believe
>>>there is a program called "LongPlay" which does do spooling,
>>>but can it support stereo audio? If not, you'd need to convert
>>>it once again, from stereo->monorail.
>>
>>WRONG!
>
>    You must really enjoy embarassing yourself, read below.

Mitch, you are being extremely rude.

>>Why is it that the author asks a simple question and you
>>rub your palms together in joy as you swoop down and
>>editorilize about how bad the IIGS is.
>
>    Why is it you are so personally wounded if I state technical
>facts about a *computer* that hightlight its weak spots. Did you
>ever stop and think that by facing the fact there is a weakness
>in hardware or software, it might motivate someone to think of a
>way of getting around that limitation? If there is a hole in the
>road, what is the best thing to do? Pretend it doesn't exist and
>tell people the road is fine, or announce it is there so others
>know about it and maybe do something to fix it?

Mitch, if a question asks "what is the technical weaknesses
of this computer" your answer would be appropriate.

But the answer to this question could easily be answered
by "an MP3 player for the IIGS would not be feasable
due to the fact that its current CPU can't handle the
necessary decompression on the fly."  Instead, you give
several paragraphs of IIGS bashing.

>>Oversampler can do stereo, play the sample as it is
>>loaded from disk (eliminating your memory problem
>>since the sample is being spooled) and can play (off
>>my fast 1GB IBM SCSI hard drive) at a sampling rate
>>of 104Khz!
>
>    May I borrow your capitalized "WRONG!" from from above? It
>is more applicable here than above. :)
>
>    Oversampler does have the output options "Stereo", "Left",
>"Right", "Internal", however that is referring to how you want
>a MONORAIL waveform played. Do you want it doubled to both the
>left/right speakers, the right speaker only, left speaker only
>or disable the stereo card output completely (use the internal
>speaker or headphone jack instead).
>
>    If I download a true 8-bit stereo waveform (the left and
>right channel are actually different) Oversampler will treat
>it as a monorail waveform, or from my experience, get rather
>confused and play only one of the two channels using the wrong
>frequency. To the best of my knowledge, there are currently
>no programs for the IIgs that can directly playback stereo
>*.WAV files (the Audio Animator software only works with its
>own unique stereo format, and rSounder allows you to load in
>and play both channels combined or ONE channel at a time).

Oversampler CAN play true stereo.  Did I say I'm
using it to play WAV format files?  The Windows
PC and Macintosh can do more than WAV files.  A
waveform can be saved in raw binary format.

>>Replacing the mono sample in the above archive
>>with an 8-bit 44Khz stereo sample I take directly
>>from a Windows PC or Macintosh, I can get 2x
>>oversampling with Oversampler using a shift-boot.
>>It sounds great!  You should try it.
>
>    Perphaps you should as well. Oversampler does not support
>stereo *.WAV files, attempting to load one in will get you a
>distorted piece of audio that is being played back at about
>half the frequency it should (increasing the playback speed
>won't make it stereo either). The author of Oversampler is
>the same person who wrote Hermes/Shadowrite and I believe
>still part of F.E. Systems who's members still frequent this
>newsgroup. You if think I'm wrong, ask the author directly.

Hey Mitch, it is YOU who is wrong.  Did I ever say
"play a WAV format file?"  No.  Ok, if you can't find
a Mac or Windows PC program that supports raw
digital audio which Oversampler can play, try a few
stereo samples created by the Sonic Blaster.  These
are true left-right separate stereo.  rSounds from
this board go into the right and the left speakers
as separate channels (NOT doubled as you claim).
Play the samples with Oversampler and then tell
me it is not outputing true stereo.

>    The only program that even *recognizes* it's dealing with
>stereo *.WAV files is rSounder, which brings up a message box
>asking if you want to combine both channels or independently
>load the left or right channel.

AGAIN, DID I SAY WAV?  Just because I'm taking
sound from a Mac or Windows PC does not mean it
MUST be the WAV format.

Why is it that everytime I say something good about
the IIGS (or a non-Intel PC like the 6x86) you jump
on me and go on the attack?  I thought it was just with
the IIGS because you wanted to "repent" for your
past allegiance to it, but when you learned I had a
6x86, you went to great lengths to try to say it sucks.

Look at it from my point of view: I like the IIGS.  I
like non-Intel PCs.  You try to attack both.  It seems
to me like you are targeting me!