Re: Reflections on the loss of the Official CSA2 FAQs

[modus-dejanews@pr.es.to (Patrick Michael Kane)]

I was in a bad mood all day today, but getting a personal insult from
Nathan Mates just almost put me on my back laughing!  Thanks for the post,
DT!

On 15 Jul 1998 02:50:57 GMT, Cturley2 <cturley2@aol.com> wrote:
>Today I celebrated (or was that celebated :) my 23rd  wedding
>anniversary. After a nice trip to the founding Apple II friends home
>with another Apple II icon (no names mentioned) of equal first name
>and status for a reunion of the two as it were, to give myself an 
>anniversary gift, after sharing a nice bottle of Chaucer's Honey Mead I
>returned home to read my email for today. In several of many emails
>I read today, I was asked by friends to pay a visit to Nathan Mates 
>website to see what he'd done to it.  So, I payed a visit and here's 
>what I found...which I've reformatted in 69 col. text to honor
>Nathan Mates which I've quoted below for the 'Official CSA2 FAQs.
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>"This page permanently deleted
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>It is with great regret that I must announce that I feel that the
>Apple II community has been turned into a wasteland by pirates,
>thieves and liars. Further, a community that refuses to stand up to
>these scum is participating in their nonsense-- especially when they
>get suckered into believing that politeness is more important than
>the truth.
>
>The Apple II community doesn't give a shit about the constant
>piracy, thievery, and hate of developers. And what's worse is that
>more people throw a fit that I just used a 4 letter word instead of
>being angry at the pirates that are truly killing the Apple II's
>future.
>
>I have invested many thousands of hours in Apple II creations, from
>programming to maintaining the best and most correct set of Apple II
>resources. Thanks to the jerks, this work has been constantly
>maligned, stolen, insulted and I now count that investment of time
>as a waste. The Apple II community has been given up on years ago by
>people with more common sense-- and now it is my turn to join them
>by turning my back on the "community," shaking the dust off my feet
>at them and moving on.
>
>The pirates may be able to steal various works. But, the creator has
>the true power that they never can match-- the power to also
>destroy. To this end, I have low-leveled all HD partitions and
>backups on my machines. There will not be another GUPP update from
>me, no Twilight II 2.0. Many other projects in various stages of
>development-- previously unannounced due to my not wanting to
>promote vaporware-- will likewise never appear on the Apple II. All
>files used to create this web site have been similarly overwritten;
>I have *none* of those files in my posession anymore-- and they
>won't be coming back. And from my opinion, that's a good thing, as I
>won't have to put up with the constant barrage of lies and
>unappreciative users.
>
>As long as the Apple II community is too idiotic to tell the
>difference between the truth and lies couched in politeness, to tell
>the difference between supporting pirates and developers, to tell
>the difference between meaningless talk and actually creating, it
>will be cursed to have more and more top developers leave. Less and
>less will be created until the platform lies in obscurity, only the
>domain of a few backbiting thieves who'll never create anything new
>again.
>
>Special mentions of thieves, liars, and crooks who have tried their
>best to push away developers: Charles Turley (piracy and lies), Jeff
>Hurlburt (aka Rubywand and SiFan-- more lies and outright hate of
>developers, as the Wolf3D incident proved), Karl Asha (running a
>pirate site), Patrick Kane (same), Steve Mentzer (posting many
>pirated materials, then claiming for years to not have done so). The
>blame for lack of Apple II development lies firmly at their feet,
>but nobody seems to have cared.
>
>And from me to the Apple II community: goodbye and good riddance.
>You asked for developers to shun you, and they're too happy to
>oblige. Don't bother contacting me; filters have been put in place
>to automatically toast such messages.
>
>Nathan Mates
>
>7/14/98" 
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>To which I simply reply: Thanks Nathan. What a perfectly lovely
>anniversary gift and Christian thing to do!  If you ever want to
>come back with your Apple II offerings, give me a buzz.  I've done 
>it enough and certainly know how.
>
>Peace, Love & Best Wishes in all the GOOD things you do.
>Tom
>
>To Brutal Deluxe I wish you ALL a 'Very Happy Bastille Day'.
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>Rev. Charles T. Turley
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>"To you has been given the secret of the Kingdom of the Gods and Goddesses, but
>for
>those outside, everything orbits in parabolas"  Euclid
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Patrick Michael Kane
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