try this, http://swupdates.info.apple.com/cgi-bin/lister.pl?Apple_Support_Area/Apple_S oftware_Updates/US/Apple_II Gabriel Morales wrote in message <358D2A48.44250054@concentric.net>... >At the time I post this it is, I've been trying to get to Apple's Apple II >software section, but I can't seem to get to >http://www.info.apple.com/swupdates. Does anybody have any explanation or suggestion?