Re: Need Help Downloading

[Slick <PAYSlick_RCBD@hotmail.com>]

There are a couple other things I should mention. First of all, I have
had problems downloading ShrinkIt archives via HTTP with Netscape
Navigator 3.0, 3.0 Gold, and 3.01 on the Mac, Netscape Communicator 4.0
on the Mac, Navigator 3.0 on a Windows '95 platform, and Navigator 3.0
Gold on a Windows 3.1 machine. Both versions of ShrinkIt have a 50-50
chance of successfully extracting the file. This problem only occurs
when I use HTTP to download. Gopher and FTP transfers work fine.

Second, Fork Splitter can be used to remove resource forks for file
already on ProDOS volumes, and HFS Link can do the same job as A2FX. HFS
Link looks more like the IIe version of ShrinkIt.

To avoid redunancy, refer to Supertimer's post (quoted below).
Supertimer wrote:
> 
> Robert Boucher <boucher1@pdq.net> wrote:
> 
> >I started with a II+ when they first came out; I still use a IIe with AW
> >5.1 on a daily basis. When AOL dropped Apple II support, I went to a Mac
> >for Internet access. I just recently discovered the number of files
> >available for the II (although it seems mostly for the IIGS) on the
> >various Web sites. My problem is I cannot seem to sucessfully download a
> >file using NN 3.04, transfer the D/L to a floppy, and get the file
> >decoded properly. (Shrinkit either tells me it cannot work with a forked
> >file, or it doesn't even recognize the file, etc).
> 
> You are describing two separate problems.  I'll address them one at
> a time.
> 
> For the times that 8-bit Shrinkit TELLS YOU that a FILE INSIDE the
> archive is forked and can't be extracted, that file is an APPLE IIGS
> program or data extended file.  The Apple IIGS uses extended files
> with resource forks just like the Mac.  You need an Apple IIGS with
> GS/OS and 16-bit GS Shrinkit to extract and use these files.  The
> Apple IIGS does not care if Macintosh makes an archive extended
> (does not care about resource forks since it makes use of them too)
> so the all advice after this paragraph DOES NOT apply to the GS
> with GS Shrinkit.
> 
> For the times that you can't recognize the file with 8-bit Shrinkit,
> Macintosh has added a resource to your .shk file, making it extended.
> ONLY GS Shrinkit can then extract these files on an Apple II and
> that Apple II must be an Apple IIGS.  However, you can use either
> Macintosh or Apple IIe to remove the resource fork.
> 
> IF you want to do the removal on the Apple IIe, you need a program
> called A2FX...available at...
> http://liquefy.isca.uiowa.edu/8/ground/apple2/apple8/Utils/a2fx.8
> 
> To use this program, simply run it, put a Macintosh (NOT ProDOS)
> formatted HFS disk into the IIe's 3.5" drive (make sure disk is
> DS/DD) and read the files off the disk, selecting the data fork to be
> copied.
> 
> HOWEVER, since A2FX is bincii encoded, if you can't get the file
> over to the IIe without a resource fork in the first place, you can't
> use A2FX.  The second option is to do it on Macintosh.
> 
> The Macintosh program ProTYPE will also remove resource forks.
> This program is available at...
> http://liquefy.isca.uiowa.edu/8/ground/apple2/Mac/ProTYPE11.hqx
> 
> To use this program, you need to run your downloads through it
> and save the output to a PRODOS formatted disk.
> 
> Why not get both so you can use BOTH standard Macintosh
> 800k format disks (A2FX) AND ProDOS 800k disks (ProTYPE) to
> transfer your files?
> 
> Remember that neither A2FX or ProTYPE will let your 8-bit
> Shrinkit magically extract GS extended files from WITHIN GS
> Shrinkit archives...they only remove the resource fork from
> the ARCHIVE ITSELF.

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