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Re: CMD products for GS (NTSC->RGB?, Scan Doublers, 20MHz)
supertimer@aol.com (Supertimer) writes:
>Did you used to write for Incider?
Alas, no, but I did write for COMPUTE! Gazette, and then COMPUTE, off and on
until it folded.
>Lurkers should post more. ;-)
:-)
>than the other two computers. In contrast, the Commodore 128
>is an Apple IIe or IIc class computer, but slightly better in sound
>and graphics.
I think that's a fair evaluation. There wasn't much more to the 128 than
memory, 80-column graphics and a CP/M mode, but at that time it was
compelling enough to get since you didn't have to leave your 64 stuff behind.
>The result is a sad mix of a computer that tries to do '90s tasks
>with '80s technology. Some users are unwilling to let go of potential
>unfulfilled, thanks to Apple. Some users are unwilling to see the
>potential that is there, treating it as an 8-bit II. Because it has one
>foot in the Amiga's boat and one foot in the Commodore 64 and
>128's boat, it has no firm platform to stand on and has fallen into
>the water.
Are there really that many people who have GSes and eschew the older ][s?
While there's a lot of Amigaheads who upgraded from 64s, they kept the 64s
and in some cases do more with them. What do most people on this group have,
GS or IIe/c?
I wonder if that would have happened had the C65 hit with any great
interest, which was basically a GS version of the 64 (4 MHz processor,
video modes up to VGA class, 128K expandable to god-knows-what, stereo
sound). The C65, of course, sank into the mire when Commodore folded;
only a few lucky people have the couple prototypes that leaked out.
>We neither have the new models, like the Amiga, or the fanatical
>devotion of users, like the Commodore 64 and 128. In spite of this,
>I still believe there is a market here.
We have our fair share of detractors, too, but they mostly come from the
emulator camp. Call me elitist, but emulator guys don't qualify as 'users'.
[Apple GEOS]
>Why won't GeoWorks cede the copyright? GeoWorks for the PC is
>dead. It might be due to the GeoBook laptop that Brother is now
>making.
It could be, but it could also be corporate mentality at work. Gateway 2000
owns the rights to the Commodore 64. Even us diehards will admit that it's
getting up there in years, and commercially, it would be never be released in
anything but a niche market, but if someone showed up with signs of interest
in reviving it I'm sure the GW2K legal department could slap a nice digit
figure on it. (Although this may be a moot point soon, as the patents are
coming up on expiration and there aren't any imminent signs of renewal.)
Something similar might be at work in Berkeley.
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Cameron Kaiser
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