Re: Randy's inherent hate of Apple IIs

[shack@onyx.southwind.net (Randy Shackelford)]

Nathan Mates (nathan@visi.com) wrote:

: GS drivers and boot code written. And ditch the "hand assembly is the
: only way to get any speed" crap too-- GNO/ME is 75+% C, probably same
: with AWGS, and many other programs that are running just fine for
: users. The 65xx processors do have their limitations, yes (64K stack
: is the most annoying to work around), but that's IRRELEVENT here.

Pay attention. I was talking about 8 bit boxes when I said assembly is the
only way to get speed. Unless you know something no one else does.

:    As I said before, "IT'S THE CODE DESIGN, STUPID." A bad interface
: is purely dependent on the lack of forethought and design on Apple's
: part, not the processor. (And good code design was laid out in the
: late 50s and definitely practiced in the 1960s, another point
: destroying your idiotic argument about the processor's age) 

Where are you getting this crap? I said that Apple IIs, especially 8 bit
boxes, aren't up to running unix. Nothing more.

:    GS/OS Device Drivers have a good interface that didn't change all
: the time, same with the Toolbox. That's two out of three where Apple
: did a good code design *first*. They failed to do so on the FSTs. Stop
: your idiotic excuses and just admit that Apple messed up here.

It needs to be so first. I contend that there is a reason other than bad
design for why FSTs are implemented as they were. So much stuff was redone
from system 4.0 to 6.0 that any design deficiency which could be cured would
have been. How much faster the tools got in 5.0.

:    Geez, who appointed you their spokesman in their absence? For the
: record, I've found many bugs in GS System 6.x, and reported them. [I
: can crash a basic install of 6.0.1 w/ Teach and *no* other addons,
: plus plenty more bugs.] They didn't try and blame it on the processor
: or take it personally-- they were polite, thanked me for finding
: things they didn't, and appreciated my releasing patches when they
: were prevented from doing so *by* *APPLE*. They sure didn't have a
: burr up their butt like you do.

No one. Bugs and bad designs are different things though I would say.
Anyone can find and report a bug, but you presume to tell them how to
design software.

:    Well, if you're claiming to be so smart with regards to the
: processor, and exposing yourself as technically incompetent to comment
: on software in the meantime, your "bets" are meaningless. I'm speaking
: facts here as to what the GS can do, what good code design is, and
: you're just coming up with bullshit after bullshit. When you've
: actually learned with good code design is, and how it works in the
: real world, then you might be able to comment on it. But, your blind
: worship of Apple as evidenced by your trying to take insults to the
: design of GS/OS personally shows you couldn't comment rationally on
: anything out of Apple without shit coming back out your mouth from
: your constant asskissing of Apple.

What the hell are you talking about? I don't take dry shit you say personally.
And I'll say it again, I will not dignify crap like you spouted in that last
sentence with a response.
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