Re: APPLE LISA 2

[spec@vax2.concordia.ca (Mitchell Spector)]

In article "Charles F. Downing" <downingc@msn.com> writes...

>Robert L. Doerr wrote in message
><01bcdd14$1ae30020$5811a098@bizserve.bizserve.com>...
>>Has anyone out there worked with an Apple Lisa 2 computer?
>>
>>Were there any games written for it?
>>
>>How many were made?
>>
>>Does anyone have any parts/options for it?
>>
>>And, what would one be worth in good shape with the keyboard, mouse,
>>manuals, software, and 10 & 20 Meg Apple Profile drives?
> 
>What would one be worth?  A LOT!!!  There are many people (myself included)
>who would love one of these systems.  I have heard that a Lisa with the
>Office System software can fetch a price of up to $500-1000!!  

    The Lisa in general is somewhat rare, but I think the original Lisa 
(with those unusual "twiggy" 5.25 drives) is more of valuable than the
Lisa 2 and Macintosh XL. I always saw the machine very similiar to the
Apple III, in respects to being a computer cousin. The Lisa was a cousin
to the Macintosh, while the Apple III was a cousin to the Apple II, yet
neither could be classified as "II" or "Mac". They're almost like the
Apple II and Macintosh from a parallel universe. :)

>And this is for a system less powerful (in ways) than the Mac 128-Plus, 
>which now can be bought for less than $100.

    I always thought the Lisa was more powerful, at least considering
it supports preemptive multitasking which the Macintosh to this day
still does not. ;-) (It also had several other nice features in both
hardware and software the Macintosh 128 lacked. Which is funny, as
the same is true when comparing the Apple III with the 8-bit Apple II).

>Parts?  Software?  Forget it.  I don't think there's anyone who sells it
>other than through USENET or class ads.  The few parts/programs/accessories
>around aren't easy to get a hold of.

    I found a local computer shop with all sorts of dealer replacement
parts for the Lisa, many of them still brand-new. If anyone is looking
for something in particular I may be able to help.

Mitchell Spector
spec@vax2.concordia.ca