Fwd: Re: CAN A MAC MULTI-TASK (The Whole Truth)

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Subject:     Re: CAN A MAC MULTI-TASK (The Whole Truth)
From:        Tom Reestman <tjr@ibm.net>
Newsgroups:  comp.sys.mac.advocacy
             comp.sys.mac.misc
             comp.sys.mac.apps
Date:        Sat, 01 Nov 1997 22:57:12 -0700

In article <345e6239.62422709@news.pdq.net>, at*dcorn*at@pdq.net (dcorn) wrote:

>On Sat, 01 Nov 1997 10:41:17 -0500, joe.ragosta@dol.net (Joe Ragosta)
>wrote:
>
>>it's irrelevant. When you buy a laptop computer to run WinNT, you're not
>>going to have power management. I'll let you worry about who to blame.
>
>That's not true, Joe.  I just said you'd have it if your system vendor
>shipped with it.  Compaq, DEC, IBM, Toshiba and MANY others all do.
>Don't believe me?  Go to www.toshiba.com / work / hmm...and click on
>the portables section, check the new files area.  You'll see the
>latest Tecra updates to this software.  
>
>This isn't new, Joe.  If you expect to be taken seriously as an
>advocate you really need to learn this stuff if you intend to make a
>big deal out of it.
>

Oh please. NT does *not* have Power Management. Period. Yes, Toshiba and
others have hacked some power-saving features together and supply it with
their notebooks. Do you know why they did this? Because NT does *not* have
Power Management. These vendor hacks don't do so well, and no sane
individual would recommend NT on a notebook where battery life is a
priority. 

>>> >- Plug & play
>>> Present, but not as good as the Mac...but there's lots more cool (and
>>> cheap) stuff to plug in on the PC.  :) 
>>PnP? NT? I think you're confused.
>
>I think you're NT illiterate, Joe.  You've proven it twice in this
>same post.  Is it installed by default?  No.  Is it on the NT CDROM?
>Yes.  Is it on my NT system, and did it autodetect my add-in cards
>after my NT install?  Yes.
> 

Oh please (again). The whole world -- except you, presumably -- knows that
NT has no PnP. MS certainly doesn't claim it. As for auto-detecting cards,
big deal. Hell, NT 3.51 could "detect" most of the common NIC cards, are
you saying that 3.51 had PnP as well? 

I find it amusing that MS is touting two of the biggest features in NT 5
as Power Management and PnP when, according to you, they already exist. 

I have before me the October Windows Sources, which has a report on NT 5
and calls it the "best Windows yet". Right on the cover it says "Easier to
Use - Plug and Play", and "Notebook Friendly - Power Management". But
you've apparently scooped Windows Sources and found out these features
exist *now* in NT 4.0. Hah!

BTW, you'll only get the Power Management and PnP features on boxes with a
chip set that supports NT 5's Advanced Configuration and Power Interface
(ACPI). This means the 440LX for PII's and 430TX for P's. Any other box
and your SOL. 

>>Wrong again. I have a second mouse button with contextual menus on my Mac.
>>Plus third and fourth buttons with their own popup menus.
>
>Wrong *again*?  I've yet to be wrong in this thread, Mr. Ragosta - you
>badly need to read up on NT.  Anyway, tell me how you got that.  It
>isn't a part of the OS, which is what I *thought* that was debating.  
>

You have been wrong, as I pointed out. And you're wrong again, as I'm
about to point out. Contextual menus *are* a part of the MacOS. 

If I were you, I wouldn't even bother trying to learn about the Mac OS,
since you apparently don't care for it anyway. I *would*, however, try to
learn a little bit about NT, since you appear to like it but don't know it
very well.

-->TR
 E-mail: tjr@ibm.net          CIS: 71630,2540          AOL: TReestman

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