Re: Open(ed) letter from Dr.T

[bjblackbear@ibm.net (B.J. Major)]

Good message. GREAT analogy (children, the playground, etc.). 
Unfortunately, Sam, it's obvious that this message will fall on deaf ears
as the parties concerned are totally obsessed with airing their personal
vendettas on this group rather than sharing Apple II information.

I remember when I first came to this group about 3 1/2 years ago.  Back
then, you could still receive it as email.  And it was a FUN group, full of
interesting technical information, with helpful and friendly people in
charge.  Now it resembles a war's minefield; be careful where you step.

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In article <61rgf6$4qo$1@news.wco.com>, Sam Ismail <dastar@shell.wco.com> wrote:

> tim_k@delphi.com wrote:
> > People haven't forgotten, have they, that Charles Turley admits to
being under
> > a psychiatrists care for a disabling mental illness?
> >  
> > 'nuff said?
> 
> Apparently people HAVE forgotten, or don't know, or know and simply DON'T
> CARE.  They use Tom as an excuse to litter this fucken newsgroup with
> trash and animosity, and for what?  To promote their own selfish agenda. 
> IT IS WHOLLY APPARENT THAT TOM IS MENTALLY UNSTABLE.  Ok, so he has some
> major faults.  There are better and far more effective ways to deal with
> him than by constantly warring with him on his level. 
> 
> Humor me.
> 
> Remember when you were a silly little child on the playground in
> elementary school?  And there was always one or two weird kids (weird only
> because we were children and didn't know any better but to classify their
> differences from us as weird) that we would pick on?  (maybe you were one
> of them)?  Remember how this child became demonized, became the target of
> all the taunts and abuse?  And no matter that any adult told you that this
> person was different from you and that it was not nice to pick on them
> because it wasn't their fault that they were different, this kid remained
> the poor asshole who was always on the receiving end of everyone's shit? 
> 
> Notice the parallel in csa2?
> 
> Ok, kids.  This is the playground.  Tom is that weird kid.  Yeah, he's got
> some problems.  He runs off at the mouth and says bizarre, even stupid
> things.  You try to beat him up to make him shut up but he just keeps on,
> and the next day he's always back at it.  Well, children, now that we are
> all presumably grown up, can we realize that no matter how much we beat on
> that stupid kid, he's never going to change?  Can we realize that he can't
> change, no matter how hard we try to make him?
> 
> STOP PLAYING LIKE CHILDREN!  This is NOT the 4th grade and this certainly
> isn't your god damn playground!  Most people who have evolved beyond
> adolescence both mentally as well as physically have learned to work
> AROUND such people.  They know that it is just a waste of their valuable
> adult time to engage in pointless bickering with such people.  Most
> people.  Notable exceptions are, of course, Nathan Mates, Richard Bennett,
> etc.
> 
> Only people who have not enjoyed the benefits of mental growth would
> continue their childish behavior into adult life.  Only immature,
> ignorant, neurotic, MENTALLY DEFICIENT people would waste their time
> constantly engaged in a battle without an end, and certainly one without
> any ultimately worthwhile purpose.
> 
> ONLY ASSHOLES WOULD ENGAGE IN THEIR PERSONAL WARS WITHOUT REGARD TO THE
> RIGHTS OF OTHERS, USING A PUBLIC FORUM AND WASTING COMMUNITY RESOURCES TO
> FURTHER THEIR OWN SELFISH CAUSE. 
> 
> I realize that there are LEGITIMATE COMPLAINTS AGAINST TOM.  But how is
> "You're a butt! No, you are! Neener Neener Neener! You't can't join my
> club! You can't come into MY playhouse!" going to solve the fricken
> problem!? 
> 
> Your enemy is not Tom, IT IS YOU!
> 
> Your own immaturity is the cause of your grief.  Your inability (or
> perhaps incapacity) to mature prevents you from being able to cope with
> this issue in a sane, rational, evolved manner.
> 
> So I say to folks like Nathan and Richard: grow some pubes, evolve to the
> point where you start needing to wear deodorant, develop some sexual
> organs...in other words GROW UP.
> 
> Realize that the problem has ALWAYS been YOU!  Realize that YOU can
> effectively end your squabbles.  Learn that there are mature, responsible,
> ADULT solutions to your problems.  The fact that this folly has endured
> for so long can only lead me to the conclusion that those who are
> constantly battling Tom are nincompoops who don't know how to use the
> tools that they, presumably as adults, have been endowed with.
> 
> STOP the public battles, TAKE it to private e-mail, and FUCK OFF.  CSA2
> has had enough of your SHIT!
> 
> -- 
> 
> Sam
>
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