Re: NATHAN and the FAQ Dilemna

[pfg@yallara.cs.rmit.EDU.AU (Paul Francis Gilbert)]

Joseph Lee <nuNOUBEgundam@netNOUBEcom.hotmail.com> writes:

>Paul Francis Gilbert <pfg@yallara.cs.rmit.EDU.AU> spawned virtual particles writing:
>: Well, at least you seem to have improved from your "Devil candied tongue"
>: spams. The question is an important one: Nathan has been consistently 

>Ah.. your finger musta slipped and added that s to spam.  I'm sure you can
>count beyond 1.

>: breaking the newsgroup charter and the newsgroup rules as a whole. He
>: continually defies it: He does not post a plain text version at regular

>So what.  If it's so important, and you can't use lynx, why don't you take
>it on as your project to convert it to plain text and post it for everybody.
>Then, bask in the glory that you can do what Nathan can't, and it's a useful
>service to this newsgroup.

Gee... Maybe because Nathan is being so pig-headed about the fact, he's
clearly saying he wants the information to be available only at his website.
Or maybe you think I should do his work for him, and do what he should 
have done already? Besides which, he'd probably jump on me for copyright
violation if I tried to. [Witness "I'll be reading every sentence of your
new FAQ Turley to make sure it hasn't got a single sentence out of my
FAQ."]

>: Despite this, some of you seem to be quite willing to suck up to him, and
>: cheer him one. Another poster was right, I should keep in mind when posting
>: that I'm dealing with morons.

>Are you and Sam clones or something?  I fail to understand this need to dip
>into personal insults in replies.  It's the faq in text we're trying to
>talk about here, not Nate, you, me, nor anyone else.

Yeh. I agree, sorry about the Moron bit. But you have to watch it with
sarcastic replies, they can be just as insulting as being frank and 
insulting someone.

>[snip]
>: It's an alright FAQ, and he can call it "My Fucken Anti-Turley FAQ, And
>: Fuck You'se Guys Who Can't Access it FAQ" for all I care. He just has no
>: right to call it "The comp.sys.apple2" FAQ without our approval.

>I don't see you doing more about it than complaining.. If you can do a better
>job.. prove it.. Otherwise, stick with what exists.  That's what an Apple II
>is about. :P

Get a clue. Just because I disapprove of Nathan breaking at the very least
newsgroup charter and news charater as a whole, his constant flames of
people, etc., you seem to think that makes me a complainer? Very well then,
I'm a complainer. And I have every intention of starting my own specialised
FAQ on certain Apple // topics. The fact that such a thing should have to
be started again, due to the unfortunate obstinace of the current 
maintainer of 'a' Apple 2 FAQ, is very disappointing.

>I can count the number of people complaining about this faq in one hand;
>maybe two.  If that's all the readers of this newsgroup, then this matter
>is even more moot.  It just isn't a big enough problem for all this huff-puff.

It is a very important problem. If the *cough* *cough* maintainer of the
group's FAQ is violating the rules and blocking access to people [and it's
been demonstrated that at least one person was being blocked that didn't
have the faintest idea what was going on] then how can we honestly take
him or the information he provides, seriously? Which is why all these
FAQ projects are starting... we've all lost faith in Mates, both in his
ability to be a FAQ maintainer, his ethics, and his technical ability.

>: If you don't agree, I don't suppose you'd see any harm in me making a new
>: drink and calling it "Coca Cola". Or perhaps making a new computer and
>[snip]

>I have friends throwing ice cream into their mountain dews and calling it the
>Jeremy Dew Float special.  I don't have a problem at all.  It's not hurting
>anybody.  Just a matter of words.

>: [Admittedly, it seems to be the current most up to date FAQ, with new
>: FAQ projects starting, we WILL have an alternative set of FAQS, which may
>[snip]

>This I think is much more constructive than idling to attack the followups.
>There are much better articles to read, games to play, programs to program,
>time to sleep. :)  Take the fight to results..
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