Re: Dr. Tom

[owsw@aol.com (Owsw)]

Nathan Mates chattered, I was wondering how long it would take Mr. Nathan
'FACTS/FAQ' Mates to enter into this little matter and it's such a BEAUTY
Nathan, I had to include it all for a reply with - Nathan Mates states:

Path:
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cit.cornell.edu!newstand.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!visi.com!news
From: nathan@visi.com (Nathan Mates)
Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
Subject: Re: Dr. Tom
Date: 12 Feb 1997 08:15:52 GMT
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In article <5drskk$gdu$1@news.chaven.com>,
Andy Dreier <orion@chaven.com> wrote:
> I suppose it's early to draw conclusions here. But it would be helpful
if
>Joe would check the ip address against Turley's isp (wco.com I think)
>and perhaps obtain logs from his isp (if possible) showing when and from
where
>he was logged on on the date in question...

   Read what Joe Kohn originally posted. The admins of wco.com
*wanted* such logs from the site where the pirated stuff was uploaded
to, and after consideration (i.e. checking their own logs), *they*
decided to kill the account. Unless they have a user policy saying "we
can kill your account if you sneeze wrong" they'll need some good
concrete reason for nuking his account *now*, versus all the previous
times he's been a jerk, uploaded copyrighted software, etc.

   I think their logs will show that Turley did log in from home as he
claimed. Unfortunately, being so high on drugs you feel like you're
200 miles away, and witnesses of several space aliens doesn't quite
count.

Nathan Mates

--
<*> Nathan Mates http://www.visi.com/~nathan/      <*>
# What are the facts? Again and again and again-- what are the _facts_?
# Shun wishful thinking, avoid opinion, care not what the neighbors
# think-- what are the facts, and to how many decimal places?  -R.A.
Heinlein


Charles T. Turley replies:

Sorry Nathan, I don't do drugs of any type any longer.  I don't even smoke
cigarettes any more.  I don't have any space aliens as witnesses either. 
Just plain old flesh and blood humans.  

Like you say all the time (you little butt-head) what are the facts, blah,
blah, blah, etc.  Hey, show the facts, not your chattering crapola little
man!   Show the facts.  And, if you don't have any facts to show, then
SHUT UP PLEASE.

You want the facts, then convience Joe Kohn to present them - with legal
action, in a court of law, for all the public to see, hear, read and
review.  You and Joe Kohn are such wonderful friends and buddies, then get
together with Joe and ROAST DR. TOM to a CRISP - please!  Then, get Joe to
post the log (all of it, every keystroke included) , the list of pirates
that downloaded it all, get him to show the emails in exact copies, (he
has muy premission to show it all to the public), the evidience, THE
FACTS,THE FACTS, THE FACTS, THE FACTS, ALL OF THE FACTS Nathan,  Get Joe
to show ALL OF THE FACTS and the evidence for everybody to see.  

You of all people should know better than to clutter this newsgroup with
stupid - obsurb comments and threads of
silly babble, such as the crapola you spewed out in your posted exact copy
noted above.

Again, I'll outline it for you butt-head, NO DRUGS, NO ALIEN WITNESSES,
JUST THE FACTS!  

I also outlined very clearly in my first reply to 'Piracy' (if you had
bothered to read it all) in the PARTS 1 thru 4 - why my wco.com acct. was
canceled - mutually and justly by agreement between both me and the
wco.com Admin.

Cheers,
Tom