Re: END THIS!!

[smentzer@pacbell.net (Steve Mentzer)]

In article <568ivf$lu4@darla.visi.com>, nathan@visi.com says...
>
>In article <567jtt$req@client3.news.psi.net>,
>Steve Mentzer <smentzer@pacbell.net> wrote:
>>You may want to read up a little. The FTP site was a ploy. The only
>>people who logged on were joe kohn, nathan, earthlink, and some other
>>guy from crl.com.
>
>   Funny. I've got some other friends who did connect and download,
>and they weren't at any of the sites listed above. But then again,
>we all knew you were a pathological liar to begin with.
>
>>That was it... I have the logs to prove it... 
>
>   Logs are nothing more than a text file that can be edited. Given
>that you've got a twinge of conscience (and a bunch of lawyers) near
>you, all the offending data can be quickly and neatly wiped. Just
>because you closed down one area doesn't mean that all suspicion of
>you is gone.
>


I dont give a hoot about suspicion.  I made my point. If people want to 
believe that I actually wanted to run an illegal pirate site for the long
term, then so be it. They probably belong to your 'sect' anyway, and are
in dire need of some glasses, so they can read the facts and figure out
what really happened.  Anyone who believes that I ran a pirate FTP site
*off of a 28.8k* connection, and freely distributed warez to the public 
is a freaking idiot.  Once again nathan, the whole thing was a ploy to
make you look like an idiot, which it did. Get a clue.


>   On the other hand, the pirate site was very real. You cannot go
>through soviet revisionist history and claim it was bullshit.
>

I haven't denied the FTP site ever existed. In fact, I posted where it was
and kept transfer logs to make sure that no illegal software was downloaded.
This was my way of covering my ass. I knew you and Joko and Earthlink and the
rest had logged in. Do you think I would have kept the damn thing running 
after the publisher of 3200 convert downloaded his own software? 



>   Then there's also this issue of your claiming that you got some
>(at least the Softdisks) of the software from a different ftp site.
>Let's see their logs, what you stole, what everyone else stole. Do
>you have the balls to post the location of that site so that I can
>nuke it also?
>


Why would I want to hurt the rest of the silent apple // community by removing their ability to download 
software?  Im not going to make your job any easier nathan. Find it yourself.


>   Bottom line folks:
>YOU PIRATE SOFTWARE WRITTEN BY ME OR MY FRIENDS, AND CURRENTLY BEING
>SOLD, YOU ARE IN DEEP SHIT.
>


Wow, that was a pretty strong statement nathan..  Now why dont you go beat your chest someplace
else, or drag your knuckles into the 21st century. If you are going to file a criminal or civil
case against me, then do so... I am waiting...  But do us all a favor and stop the saber 
rattling and the mating calls. It is getting old. Shit or get off the pot. And if you cant decide,
shut the hell up....



>   [Yes, some commercial software _written by me_ was on that site of
>Steve Mentzer's, and most likely on wherever he got the software from.]


Really nathan, what software are we talking about. My transfer logs show that
you briefly perused the directory structure, but didn't download anything. And I 
dont recall having any of your software on the site. After all this site was 
meant for *real commercial software*, not nebulous hacks...


Nathan, we can continue this war forever..  I have quite a bit of dirt left...


smentzer@pacbell.net