I have tried using the 3 on the keypad and the top row. Also tried shift,OA,Option and control commands with both 3's and no luck. -- nlayton@teleport.com http://www.teleport.com/~nlayton/neal.index.html ftp.teleport.com /users/nlayton Willamette Apple Connection BBS (503)363-0861 300 - 14.4k 24hrs