Re: ProDOS, OS X and Netatalk

[pitz <pitz.wong@gmail.com>]

On Jan 25, 3:35 pm, Steven Hirsch <snhir...@gmail.com> wrote:
> pitz wrote:
> >> It may be the bridges performing the Phase 1 to Phase 2 translation.
> >> The Sonic Systems bridge that I tried may not be doing that.   I'll
> >> test with a Gatorbox or the other routers I have.
>
> > Testing with an AppleTalk "router" (an EtherRouteTCP/II) instead of a
> > "bridge" type of adapter allowed me to see the Kubuntu box from the
> > IIgs.
>
> > Searching the net for info, it looks like the IIgs uses AppleTalk
> > Phase 1.  A bridge would pass it through EtherTalk, but Phase 1 is not
> > recognized by Linux (at least as mentioned in some old docs at
> >http://www.anders.com/projects/netatalk/old/atalkd.conf.htmland also
> > in Linux's ddp.c source).  Using a router that has Phase 1 on its
> > LocalTalk segment, and Phase 2 on its EtherTalk segment seems to
> > provide the necessary translation.
>
> Great!  I think that answers the question.  I was unaware that the Gatorbox
> was actually converting Phase 1 --> Phase 2!  I thought the only difference
> was the range of addresses permitted.
>
> > Out-of-the-box, the randnum UAMS is not enabled so I still wasn't able
> > to login to the Linux box.  I have to check if it can be enabled
> > through config or if a recompile of netatalk is needed.
>
> That's correct.  It's very easy to rectify the situation, though.  Please see
> my earlier posting for complete details.  Do not hesitate to contact me in
> private e-mail if you need any help getting that going!
>
> > The Farallon adapters (which I don't have) probably have the same
> > limitations as the Sonic Systems bridge that I tested with.
>
> I believe that the Mac Localtalk / Ethertalk bridge application does a similar
> conversion.  I had suggested to Tony that he give that a try.
>
> Steve

Turned out that I really didn't need a secure authentication, so I
just used Marsha's patched AppleShare CDEV to use the cleartxt UAM
(cleartxt and DHX2 came as defaults in the netatalk package grabbed by
Kubuntu).  AFP shares were easily mountable into the IIgs Finder.

Since I was testing AppleTalk/AppleShare anyway, I fired up the old
Windows 2000 Server with the AppleTalk protocol add-in and the IIgs
can mount the shares there too.  This worked with either the
EtherRouteTCP/II router or the Sonic Systems bridge.  Apparently,
Windows' AppleTalk add-in can understand EtherTalk Phase 1.  I think
Windows 2003 Server was the last version that supported the AppleTalk
add-in (it isn't present on the Win7 install disc).