Re: UNIX newbie question

[irsman@iastate.edu (Ian Schmidt)]

In article <329g9h$hlg@crl3.crl.com> joko@crl.com (Joe Kohn) writes:

>I have learned more from Brian Tao talking about the Internet on Genie's A2
>than I have learned about the net in the past year by reading c.s.a2.

Ok.  c.s.a2 is a part of the net, but it is NOT the mission of c.s.a2 to
instruct people about the net.  There are myriad newsgroups and local
help systems on nearly any ISP or university system devoted especially
to newbies, including such conviences as menu shells and so on.

>Until I posted a message a month or two back about www and lynx, I had
>never heard anyone on c.s.a2 mention the web or web browsers. Why? It's
>certainly the greatest and most wonderful thing I've ever used my modem
>for. But, I got flamed for mentioning the SL-9 home page here on c.s.a2.

Again, c.s.a2 is not the place for it.  comp.infosystems.www is.

>Instead, bandwidth is wasted by 8 year olds who come here and say the Apple
>II is crap, and 25 people write long empassioned answers saying it's not.
>Then we waste bandwidth on the pros and cons of piracy. Today's
>topic...Karateka is uh-uh cool. Karateka is awful. No, Karateka is kewl.

All of those topics have more relavance to the Apple II than comet pictures.

>Heck, we could be teaching each other about this wonderful world of the
>Internet instead.

People are doing such teaching on comp.unix.questions and others.  If
you'd like to RFD comp.sys.apple2.net-newbies, feel free to.  I'll even
vote for it.

>Rhetorical question...don't send e-mail to answer...but, how many people
>are still using ftp when they should be using ncftp instead? I do not think
>that the term ncftp has _ever_ once come up in c.s.a2. Is it in the FAQ? 
>No. So, lots of Apple II folks are still struggling with ftp.

Heh.  I personally don't use ncftp...waste of cycles.  But then, I don't
read threaded news, and I generally wont run something I didn't compile
myself :)

>I guess my point is that just as I am clueless about compiling unix source,
>I'm sure there are many Apple II people reading c.s.a2 who are clueless to
>other aspects of the net. I'm not trying to be the netiquette police, but I
>sure wish we could learn more (and teach more) about the net from c.s.a2.

RFD an appropriate group.  It's not that hard [see news.answers].

>To me, it's almost sad that there are folks with a full net connection,
>reading this, who have never heard of, or used, Mosaic or Lynx. I
>know...after I posted about www, I got emails asking me what those things
>are.

WWW isn't everyone's cup of tea...our own James Brookes can't stand it
for various reasons.

>Oh well, all and all, I'd rather be here than on AOL <haha>.

Hehehehehehe :)

-- 
Ian Schmidt / irsman@iastate.edu / irsman@rush.cc.edu / BAZ IS RIGHT!!!
The original Sound & Music God, and author of the A2 Sound & Music FAQ.