I use MousePaint and occasionally Newsroom (never Printshop) to draw diagrams, maps, myself :-), etc on my Apple //e. I've heard of other programs but don't know if its even possible to get them still. If you know Mousepaint, is there anything better for the //e? astange@unibase.unibase.sk.ca -- Alan Stange Internet: astange@unibase.Unibase.SK.CA