Re: A New Game for the GS!

[irsman@iastate.edu (Ian Schmidt)]

In article <CpouMp.1s0@mail.on-line.co.uk> tombo@mail.on-line.co.uk (Richard King) writes:
>AIMED DIRECTLY AND EXCLUSIVELY AT --> jlee@bonnie.ics.uci.edu

>jlee@bonnie.ics.uci.edu writes:

>> Will you please post a description with this post.  It's really,
>> really annoying, when people post binaries without descriptions or
>> proper credit for the author of the program.  You know who you are.
 
>I do. My name is Richard King - you will observe that this is the same
>name as is in the header of the binary to which you object in such an
>impertinent fashion. The program is a Game, defined as a means of
>amusement or play, and it is New: that means is is not someone else's
>work, previously seen elsewhere.

I'm sorry bub, but a lot of people access this feed with 2400 or slower
modems, and it's very unreasonable to expect them to blow off time (and money,
for those using an ISP such as crl.com or netcom) just to find out what
something is.  In fact, it's considered downright rude to post things to
comp.binaries.apple2 without a description (see also Daniel Pfarrerer).
I'm really sorry that you've had to resort to 1WSW-style tactics in response
to a perfectly reasonable suggestion... you and your 'organization' are the
only people it can serve to discredit.

>details of the author (namely, ME!) in the program. If you were a
>reasonably intelligent person, you might infer that the author of a new
>game is quite likely to be the same person as the uploader of it.

Untrue in 99% of the cases of games posted to c.b.a2.  You'll notice that most
things these days are posted via Brian Tao's binpost program, which requires
you to include all kinds of nice information.

>I consider you to be a fool, who knows no better. How *dare* you flame
>me, when I've taken the trouble to upload my work for you? 

Is this serious?  Are you for real?  Uploading something for others to see is
a privledge for the uploader, not the reciever.  And using things like binpost
it's not exactly trouble to upload stuff either.
 
>You find it annoying that you didn't get a full and complete description
>in front of the file? ANNOYING? People who behave on the net as you do
>make me LIVID WITH FURY!!!! GET SOME BLOODY MANNERS! And learn netiquette
>before you criticise someone else - binary groups are NOT meant to have
>text messages posted to them, nor are files posted to them supposed to
>have great slabs of readable text on the front.

Yes they are.  Pay god damn attention to most of the postings coming across...
DOTW's GS Invaders Demo 2 includes a full description on the front.  This is
fine, as BinSCII is specifically designed to skip over non-encoded stuff in
front of a file.  You, sir, are the mannerless one, assuming you can force
whatever view of netiquette you have on the rest of us.

>{My apologies to others for this blast - I am so angry that I decided to
>make my outburst in public. jlee didn't have the courtesy to email me
>privately, so I won't accord him the courtesy of replying in private.}

You violated netiquette in front of everyone, so your dressing-down quite
naturally also came in public.  There's plenty of precident for this (again,
refer to all of us who blast Pfarrerer every time he posts without a full
description). 

Ian, lead engineer, AudioZap for OS/2.

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