Re: I'll be at KansasFest 2010 - but you won't know me by sight :)

[Saint Isadore Patron Saint of the Internet <tadapope@gmail.com>]

On Dec 2, 6:07 pm, IUnknown <stevement...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Dec 2, 3:24 pm, Saint Isadore Patron Saint of the Internet
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> > On Dec 1, 5:33 pm, IUnknown <stevement...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > On Dec 1, 12:42 pm, Saint Isadore Patron Saint of the Internet
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> > > <tadap...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > On Nov 29, 3:08 am, f...@off.turdbag wrote:
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> > > > > On Thu, 19 Nov 2009 21:46:00 -0800 (PST), Saint Isadore Patron Saint
> > > > > of the Internet <tadap...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> > > > > >I finally decided to attend the entire event and to meet all of the
> > > > > >SPECIAL A2 folks.
> > > > > >It would be so nice to see Rubywand there too.
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> > > > > >Cheers!
> > > > > >Tom
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> > > > > Fuck off you vile piece of diseased dog shit.
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> > > > Richard Bennett everybody!  Richard Bennett!!!!
> > > > He knows how to make his feces fasination and his hate
> > > > known for sure.
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> > > > Do let me know if you'll be attending KansasFest 2010 too.
> > > > If you are going - I'll surely need to hire a security guard.
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> > > > With that flaming red hair - and your psycho-rave persona
> > > > - one never knowns what danger you might present to me when
> > > > we are both there.
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> > > > Cheers!
> > > > Tom
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> > > Tom, you should give richard a break. Holding on to that hate for all
> > > these years must have taken a real toll on his sanity.
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> > > Ya know what would be cool. If Nathan Mates could grace us with his
> > > presence and proclaim us all to be mortal sinners. I hear he has
> > > plenty of time on his hands since pandemic studios bit the dust ...
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> > I got an email from Nathan Mates several years ago *(YES Ian there
> > really is
> > a sound god)* way back when I was on AOL only.  He said in the email
> > to me
> > that he was sorry he had waged a hate war towards me and really
> > thought I did
> > a lot for the A2 world - even stimulating him to do a IIGS game
> > 'Turkey Shoot'.
> > Nathan really isn't some bible slapper know it all.  He's a great guy
> > that just
> > dislikes real software pirates.  Even in that email to me saying I
> > wasn't the
> > grand software pirate like Joe proclaimed me.  He said he didn't care
> > to establish
> > a friendly relation with me but, I could email him if I really needed
> > something
> > that he could do for me and if possible he would.
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> > I'd LOVE to see Nathan posting here in CSA2land.  I'm going to email
> > him and see
> > if he would like to go to KansasFest with me (all my treat of
> > course).  Can you
> > just imagine; Nathan, Richard, myself and Rubywand all together live
> > at the 2010
> > KansasFest.  Now that could be a really amazing event.  Who knows
> > 'Miracles may
> > Happen'.
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> > Cheers!
> > Tom
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> That whole era was kind of a sad joke. It was like watching family
> members fight over the scraps of a worthless estate held by a relative
> they didn't really know....
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> Anyone who felt that most A2 software should be classified as
> 'abandonware' was labeled as an evil pirate. Realistically, did anyone
> REALLY think that EA gave a rats ass if I downloaded 'Bards Tale' for
> IIe?
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> I/We never denied that what we were doing was technically copyright
> infringement....  I freely admit to downloading and playing the
> classics.... but I never went so far as to distribute/sell them, and I
> willfully *purchased* software like GSoft basic from guys that were
> actively selling it (MikeW!)
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> I was labeled as a 'pirate' even tough I really *never* pirated any
> software that took money out of the hands of the guys that were
> left.....
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> The guys from brutal deluxe even went so far as to dedicate an entire
> web page to my activities, even though what they documented was a
> complete bait job ... (running a phony ftp site on a 28.8k modem with
> a trial earthlink account and posting the ip address to the csa2
> newsgroup and watching joe kohn log in)
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> What I *was* advocating at the time was a more relaxed status for
> 'abandonware'... you know, software where the copyright owners don't
> care, are dead or simply do not exist anymore...
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> Joe, Nathan and Richard felt that if the current copyright holder
> couldn't be found and contacted for an AFFIRMATIVE release as
> 'abandonware', it should be labeled as off limits.
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> I saw the futility in this.... there was no way that EA, Interplay,
> Origin, Apple, etc were EVER going to reclassify the software. The
> lawyers would take one look at the request, laugh and throw it in the
> round file.
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> So I took a different path, and tried to convey my message to Nathan,
> Joe, etc.... to no avail.
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> Looking back on it all, I shouldn't have gotten caught up in the
> negativity ....
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It was all a facinating time line for sure.  Like nothing I've
encountered before or sense.
It was the best psychology research I could have ever learned about by
any other method.

Cheers!
Tom