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RESULT: comp.sys.apple2 reorganization passes
RESULTS - comp.sys.apple2 reorganization passes
Submitted by: Brian Tao <taob@r-node.hub.org>
Date submitted: May 23 1993
Voting on the comp.sys.apple2 (csa2) reorganization is now CLOSED.
Please do not send any more votes -- they will be discarded. Thanks
to all who participated in the discussion and voting.
A total of 303 valid votes were received (not including 8
duplicate votes which were discarded). Proposals for the creation of
four new unmoderated newsgroups have all passed (YES votes exceed NO
votes by 100 or more, and over two-thirds of the votes are YES). YES
and NO votes may not always add up to 303 because of abstentions:
comp.sys.apple2 reorganization results - 303 votes
Yes No : 2/3? >100? : Pass? : Group
---- ---- : ---- ----- : ----- : -------------------------------------------
259 38 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.sys.apple2.comm
266 33 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.sys.apple2.marketplace
266 34 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.sys.apple2.programmer
236 56 : Yes Yes : Yes : comp.sys.apple2.usergroups
csa2.comm Discussions related to Apple II data communications
csa2.marketplace Buying/selling/trading of Apple II-related equipment
csa2.programmer Discussions related to Apple II programming
csa2.usergroups Discussions related to running an Apple II user group
According to the "Guidelines" posting, there will be a five-day
waiting period after this notice appears on news.announce.newgroups in
which any serious concerns or corrections to the results list should
be brought to my attention. If no major objections are made against
the results of the vote or the voting procedure, newgroup control
messages will be sent out by the moderator of news.announce.newgroups,
David Lawrence.
Of note: an above-average proportion of ProLine BBS users
participated in the vote (74 votes, or about one-quarter). ProLine is
an Apple II-based network that carries Internet e-mail and Usenet
news. Users of these systems have traditionally been "lurkers" on
Usenet -- reading but rarely posting. My thanks to the sysops of
various ProLine systems for making the RFD and CFV's easily accessible
to their users and encouraging them to vote. BTW, for anyone who has
money riding on this, pro-cajun wins with the most votes at 15. :)
I should also mention Ron Dippold, the author of the UseVote vote-
taking software which made the usually mundane task of running a CFV
trivial. It processes the voting account's mailbox, scans for votes,
interprets the ballot, adds the results to the database and checks for
duplicate votes. It also generates voting ballots, personal vote
acknowledgments, mass ACK listings, tally results and final voting
results. Did I miss anything, Ron? ;-) I've compiled it on seven
different architectures, from my Apple IIGS using ORCA/C and GNO, to a
386/33 with Linux/gcc, to a Sparcstation 10 running SunOS 4.13 and
gcc. Anyone who wants to run a CFV (especially a multi-vote CFV)
should take a look at his software. Truly a fantastic time-saver.
The list of voters and their votes follows. 'Y' means yes, 'N'
means no and a '-' means an abstention. Column 1 contains the votes
for csa2.comm, 2 is csa2.marketplace, 3 is csa2.marketplace and 4 is
csa2.usergroups. Again, thanks to all who voted.
comp.sys.apple2 reorganization Final Vote Ack 1234
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100037.146@compuserve.com ("John M. Stoll") YYYY
34II5MT@CMUVM.CSV.CMICH.EDU (John Goggan) YYYY
90taobri@wave.scar.utoronto.ca (Brian Tao) YYYY
a.guillaume@trl.oz.au (Andrew Guillaume) YYYY
aa382@freenet.carleton.ca (Marc Sira) YYY-
acct069@carroll1.cc.edu (Ron) YYYN
achauhan@budapest.math.macalstr.edu (Amrit Chauhan) YYYN
ad657@freenet.carleton.ca (Michel Bois) YYYY
afcdyajim@aol.com YYYY
afljoeys@aol.com YYYY
agpbrs@pnv.palm.cri.nz (Bruce R. Sinclair) NNNN
aguiles@pro-fac.cts.com (A. Guiles) YYYY
ah752@yfn.ysu.edu (Jennifer Peters) YYYY
al192420@next20.mty.itesm.mx NNNN
alb@cognos.com (Al Belyea) YYYY
alfred!vicstoy!aphelps@osceola.cs.ucf.edu (Austin Phelps) YYYY
amorton@ecr.mu.oz.au (Anthony_Bruce MORTON) YYYY
andrews@pro-cajun.cts.com (Andrew) YYYY
arb@sunsrvr3.cci.com (Anthony Bean) YYNN
as607@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Matt Ostanik) YYYY
awillis@MIT.EDU (Albert Willis) YYYY
b.wells5@pro-magic.oau.org (Brian Wells) YYYY
b45075@achilles.ctd.anl.gov (Nathaniel Trost) YYYY
balr!vpnet!vpnet!vagrant@clout.chi.il.us YYYN
banana@Panix.Com (Walter Polkosnik) NYYN
bazyar@csn.org (Jawaid Bazyar) YYYY
bbs-bdoherty@jwt.oau.org (Benjamin Doherty) YYYY
bclark@jupiter.chi.il.us (Brian Clark) YYYN
beejay@micor.ocunix.on.ca (Basil Johnson) YYYY
behrenss@informatik.tu-muenchen.de (Soenke Behrens) YYYN
berigan@platte.unk.edu YYYY
bill@pro-algonquin.cts.com (Bill Schanks) YYYY
bill@pro-storm.metronet.com (Bill Long, Sysop) YYYY
Bill@skynet.dartmouth.edu (Bill McGonigle) YYYY
billf@pro-novapple.cts.com (William Fry) YYYY
bit@gnu.ai.mit.edu Y-Y-
bjohnson@sys6626.bison.mb.ca (Brian Johnson) NNNN
bkogawa@pro-palmtree.socal.com (Bryan Ogawa) YYYY
bn244@cleveland.freenet.edu (Ruth White) YYYY
boom@pro-cajun.cts.com (Abe Bren) YYYY
borchert@ira.uka.de YYYY
brendanhr@aol.com YYYY
bridson@primate.wisc.edu (Bill Bridson) NNYN
brunom@pro-cajun.cts.com (Bruno Melton) YYYY
bscully@xenitec.xenitec.on.ca (Brian Scully) YYYY
bvf@tiamat.umd.umich.edu (Joshua Thompson) YYYY
bwoolf@pro-woolf.cts.com (Bev Woolf - Sysop) YYYY
caw@dcs.edinburgh.ac.uk YYYY
cbaird@scorch.apana.org.au (Chris Baird) YYYN
CBUDEWIG@bldg284.awacs.af.mil YYYY
CHARLES_PLATER@MTS.cc.Wayne.edu YYYY
CHEM8W@Jetson.UH.EDU (FLIP) YYYY
CHEMAQ@Jetson.UH.EDU YYYY
cheneval@lamisun.epfl.ch (Yves Cheneval) NNNN
chip@chinacat.unicom.com (Chip Rosenthal) -N--
chuckie@sage.cc.purdue.edu (Gunn, C Stephen) YYYY
ckd@eff.org (Christopher Davis) YYYY
cline@usceast.cs.scarolina.edu NNNN
cmc@brandx.cs.ohiou.edu (C Matthew Curtin) YYYY
co057@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Steven H. Lichter) YYYY
compton@plains.NoDak.edu ("Curtis M. Compton") YYYY
csdgwh@sn370.utica.ge.com (Glenn W. Hoffman) YYYY
cust_ts@cc.helsinki.fi (Tero Sand) YYYY
cward@Think.COM (Christopher Ward) NNNN
dales@pro-novapple.cts.com (Dale Smith) YYYY
damin@babbage.cba.csuohio.edu (Greg Boehnlein) YYYY
david@cs.uow.edu.au (David E A Wilson) YYYY
dbrown@mcvax.csusb.edu (Dan Brown) YYYY
dcgreen@pro-harold.cts.com (David Green) YYYY
ddkilzer@iastate.edu NYNY
dean@pro-cajun.cts.com (Dean Mulig) YYYY
dempson@swell.actrix.gen.nz (David Empson) YYYY
derek@slab.slip.uiuc.edu (Derek Taubert) YYYY
dig@pro-cynosure.cts.com (Doug Granzow) YYYY
dkopin@pro-fac.cts.com (Dave Kopin) YYYY
dmag@engin.umich.edu (Daniel Demaggio) YYYY
dmyers@pro-tcc.cts.com (Douglas Myers) YYYY
dmz@cco.caltech.edu (Daniel Zimmerman) YYYY
donaldf@pro-applebcs.cts.com (Donald Franklin) YYYY
dratzlaf@nyx.cs.du.edu (Norby) YYYY
drees@plains.NoDak.edu (Steve Drees) YYYY
edward@pro-ren.cts.com (Edward Floden) YYYY
ejo@kaja.gi.alaska.edu ("Eric J. Olson") N-NN
elk@pro-algonquin.cts.com (Erik Knopp) YYYY
elliota@pro-phx.cts.com (Elliot A) YYYY
emcguire@intellection.com (Ed McGuire) NNNN
fadden@xserver.uts.amdahl.com (Andy McFadden) NYYN
FDMWINK@ucf1vm.cc.ucf.edu (Larry Wink) NNNN
fein@acsu.buffalo.edu (L. Fein) YYYY
feline!gray (Kelly Gray) YYYY
fgise@pro-cajun.cts.com (Fred Gise) YYYY
fhu@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU YYYY
florpch@jhunix.hcf.jhu.edu (Lawrence S Lee) YYYY
fmlin@netcom.com (Frank M. Lin) YYYY
foegelle@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Michael Foegelle) YYYY
fredp@cs.utexas.edu (Fred William Peterson) NNNN
frostj@u.washington.edu (Joseph Frost) YYYY
fsdlb1@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu (Derek L Bastille) YYYY
fsejd1@camelot.acf-lab.alaska.edu (Evan J Day) YYYN
FSSPR@acad3.alaska.edu (Hardcore Alaskan) YNYN
garyh@pro-novapple.cts.com (Gary Hayman) YYYY
gdesroch@slate.Mines.Colorado.EDU (DESROCHERS GARY FREDERIC) YYYY
GENE.M.LINKOSKI@gte.sprint.com YYYY
ggw@wolves.Durham.NC.US (Gregory G. Woodbury) YNYN
glenn@cis.ksu.edu (Glenn S. Goldstein) YYYN
glyn@amisk.cs.ualberta.ca (Reade Glyn Devin) YYYY
goo@cwis.unomaha.edu (Kent Radek) YYYY
gregd@pro-desert.cts.com (Greg DaCosta) YYYY
gregt+@cmu.edu (Gregory Ross Thompson) YYYY
grenda@pro-cajun.cts.com (Dave Grenda) YYYY
grio@cs.psu.edu (Daniel L Grillo) NNNN
grover@emunix.emich.edu (Grover Thomas) NYYN
gsnow@pro-freedom.van.wa.us (Gary Snow) YYYY
gt2011a@prism.gatech.edu (gt2011a SIMMS,WILLIAM SHELDON) YYYY
guertinp@IRO.UMontreal.CA (Paul Guertin) -YY-
gwlester@cpu.com YYYY
hackerb9@u.washington.edu (Nothing to hide) YYYY
hal.isc.toronto.ibm.com!jeremy@yoda.isc.toronto.ibm.com YYYY
hartkopf@spot.Colorado.EDU (Jeff Hartkopf) YYYY
hbouma@budapest.math.macalstr.edu (Harold Byron Bouma) YYYY
hc23@summitis.com (Thomas Picray) YYYY
henigan@quando.quantum.de (Kevin Henigan) YYYN
hiscdcj@lux.latrobe.edu.au (Jones-evans Dwayne C) YYYN
hmpetro@mosaic.uncc.edu (Herbert M Petro) NNNN
hochstrasse@yogi.urz.unibas.ch YYYY
hockley@enel.ucalgary.ca (Dallas Hockley) YYYY
hrose@eff.org (Helen Trillian Rose) YYYY
hunter@pro-cajun.cts.com (Clint Bailey) YYYY
ibpunk@sizone.jaywon.pci.on.ca (Mike Vandenberg) YYYY
iigs@wam.umd.edu (The Doctor) YYYY
irie@husc.harvard.edu NNNN
irsman@iastate.edu (Ian Schmidt) YYYY
j0p7771@tamuts.tamu.edu (Jason Perez) NNNN
jagolia@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU YYYY
jamesb@ecst.csuchico.edu (James L Brookes) YYYY
jamesz@pro-friends.cts.com (James Zajkowski) YYYY
jason@studsys.mscs.mu.edu (Jason Hanson) NNNN
jaycew@pro-cajun.cts.com (Jayce) YYYY
jberger@nyx.cs.du.edu (Joel Berger) YYYY
jblaby@cyberstore.ca YYYY
jblass@cibbs.north.net YYYY
jbrowaty@muug.mb.ca (Jeff Browaty) YYYY
jchappel@nyx.cs.du.edu (Jeanne Chappell) YYYY
jeff@pro-nsdapple.cts.com (Jeff Jungblut) YYYY
jeffb@world.std.com (Jeffrey T Berntsen) YYYY
jeffh@apple.com (Jeff Holcomb) YYYY
jemorti@relay.nswc.navy.mil (Jack Mortimer - K31) YYYY
jerryb@pro-fac.cts.com (Jerry Bolduc) YYYY
jfritz@ceco.ceco.com (John A. Fritz) YYYY
jgd@Dixie.Com (John De Armond) NNNN
jgibb@reed.edu (Jason Gibb) YYYN
jguy@pro-finders.cts.com (Jerry Guy) YYYY
jimmys@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU (Jimmy Shaw) YYYY
jimwong@owlnet.rice.edu (James David Wong) YYYY
jkinker@pro-fac.cts.com (Joel Kinker) YYYY
jlcooper@sacam.orEn.ortn.edu (Jonathan L Cooper) YYYY
jlee@Bonnie.ICS.UCI.EDU ("Joseph T. Lee") YYYY
jmire@pro-cajun.cts.com (John Mire) YYYY
jmk3@CRUX2.CIT.CORNELL.EDU YYYN
jmoore@pro-fac.cts.com (John Moore) YYYY
joefrank@owlnet.rice.edu (Joseph Frank Shidle) YYYY
joeo@pro-phx.cts.com (Joe Oliver) YYYY
john.farris@canrem.com (John Farris) YYYY
johns@pro-freedom.van.wa.us (John Sparkman) YYYY
johnt@meaddata.com (John Townsend) YYYY
johnyancho@pro-fac.cts.com (John Yancho) YYYY
jon@qedbbs.com (Jonathan Fether) YYYY
jphaid@pro-nbs.cts.com (JP Haid) YYYY
js3b+@andrew.cmu.edu (James Vincent Schultz) YNNN
jsimmons@sbcs.sunysb.edu (Jason Simmons) YYYY
just.dave@genie.geis.com YYYY
jwolverton@pro-tcc.cts.com (John Wolverton) YYYY
jws54@cas.org YYYY
kapffer@informatik.mathematik.uni-mainz.de (Matthias Kapffer) YYYY
kentd@hpcuhe.cup.hp.com (Kent Dickey) YYYY
kimba@gnh-cathouse.cts.com (Kim Brennan) YYYN
KITZMAN@AC.GRIN.EDU ("Kitzman,Dennis W") YYYY
kkenn@cola.pax.tpa.com.au (Kristian Kennaway) YYYY
klo@stern.nyu.edu (Usurper!) YYYY
kludge@pro-zap.cts.com (Guillaume Patte) YYYY
knauer@cs.uiuc.edu (Rob Knauerhase) YYYY
kreme@nyx.cs.du.edu (Not A Random Name) YYYY
kris.w@pro-cajun.cts.com (Kris) YYYY
lablues!larry@mother.bates.edu (Lawrance A. Schneider) YYYY
larryc@pro-nsdapple.cts.com (Larry Colton) YYYN
lin@Athena.MIT.EDU NNNN
lisbon@vpnet.chi.il.us (Gerry Swetsky) NNNN
lmire@pro-cajun.cts.com (Elizabeth Mire) YYYY
lop@pro-zap.cts.com (laurent Pontailler) YYYY
lpowell@eis.calstate.edu (Larry Powell) YYYY
lunatic@netcom.com (Lunatic Johnathan Bruce E'Sex) YYYY
lunatix!pbenson@ms.uky.edu YYYY
lvirden@cas.org (Larry W. Virden) YYYY
m.tiernan@pro-applebcs.cts.com (Michael Tiernan) YYYY
maaa@pro-berks.cts.com (Joseph Palamar) YYYY
mattd@apple.com (Matt Deatherage) --Y-
max@texsys.com (Max Heffler) YYYY
mcgovern@cs.colostate.edu (Mike McGovern) YYYY
mcoulter@nde.unl.edu (mary coulter) YYYY
mdavis@pro-sol.cts.com (Morgan Davis) YYYY
mdj@pro-mdj.dude.acme.fred.org (Mark de Jong) YYYY
meekins@cis.ohio-state.edu (Tim Meekins) YYYY
mfs@ted.cray.com (Mark Sauder) YYYY
mholtz@netcom.com (Mark Holtz) NNNN
mikel@networx.com (Mike Lempriere) YYYY
mikep@pro-berks.cts.com (Mike Palamar) YYYY
mikeu@pro-magic.oau.org (Mike Ungerman) YYYY
MISC059@csc.canterbury.ac.nz ("Damon Rand, Canterbury Uni, NZ") YYYY
mjn@pseudo.uucp (Murray Nesbitt) NNNN
mlensenmayer@pro-tcc.cts.com (Mark Lensenmayer) -YYY
mmedia!mcfarlin@hoss.unl.edu (David McFarling) YYYY
mmt@RedBrick.COM (Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS) NNNN
mo@pro-woolf.cts.com (Morgan DiGesualdo) YYYY
mort@apollo.hp.com (Stephen Moriarty) YYYY
mrapple@quack.kfu.com (Nick Sayer) NNNN
mshecket@pro-tcc.cts.com (Michael Shecket) YYYY
msjohnso@silver.ucs.indiana.edu (micah shane johnson) YYYY
mspaeth@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Wayne Gretzky) YYYY
murph@apple.com (Jim Murphy) YYYY
nathan@cco.caltech.edu (Nathan Mates) YYYY
neufeld@helios.physics.utoronto.ca (Christopher Neufeld) YYYY
nwp90@ecs.southampton.ac.uk (Nick Phillips) YYYY
ottoh3@cfsmo.honeywell.com (Otto Heuer #3) YYY-
owens@cookiemonster.cc.rochester.edu (Bill Owens) NNNN
paulb@pro-cajun.cts.com (Paul Browneng) YYYY
PHS172M@vaxc.cc.monash.edu.au (Stephen Harker) YYYY
power@cyberspace.org (Russ Woodroofe) YYYY
prisoner@tsoft.net (Kent Keltner) NYYY
programer@pro-applebcs.cts.com (Marek Kozubal) YYYY
prophet@cheshire.oxy.edu (Dale B. LaFountain) YYYY
psonnek@pro-algonquin.cts.com (Patrick Sonnek) YYYY
pthirose@chorizo.engr.ucdavis.edu (Paul Hirose) NYNN
quor@qedbbs.com (Matthew Ghio) YYY-
r.merrill2@genie.geis.com YYYY
rdippold@qualcomm.com (Ron Dippold) YYYY
reevess@sunrise.cse.fau.edu (Steve Reeves) -YY-
rew.the.cat@pro-algonquin.cts.com (Andrew Berg) ----
RGSHACKE@WSUHUB.UC.TWSU.EDU YYYN
RHILL@OREAD.CC.UKANS.EDU (Robert Hill) YYYY
rhood@pro-gonzo.cts.com (Robert Hood) YYYY
richard@fiu.edu (Richard A Simm) NNNN
richardd@pro-ed.cts.com (Richard Duncan) YYYY
rick@crick.ssctr.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller) YNYN
rickd@comtch.computech.spk.wa.us (Rick Diffley) YYYY
rickk@pro-tcc.cts.com (Rick Kennedy) YYYY
rjm@pro-fac.cts.com (Robert McCabe) YYYY
rlw@chem.wayne.edu (Ron Wilson) YYYY
rlward1@afterlife.ncsc.mil (Robert Ward) YYYY
robert-s@cs.aukuni.ac.nz YYY-
root@hastur.cc.edu (The Super User) YYYY
rtg@egr.duke.edu YYYY
rubini@ipvvis.UNIPV.IT (Alessandro Rubini) YYYY
rwifall@NMSU.Edu (Richard Wifall) YYYY
samd@pro-woolf.cts.com (Samantha Digesualdo) YYYY
samp@pro-gallup.cts.com (Sam Pemberton - Sys Admin) YYYY
sbdocker@acs.ucalgary.ca (Sean Dockery) YYYY
schmaus@ee.ualberta.ca (Roy Schmaus) YYYY
schultp@wl.com (Paul Schultz) YYYY
scot@jlc.MV.COM (Scot Salmon) YYYY
sebugg@cs1.presby.edu (Stephen Buggie) YYYY
sknkwrks@sonny-boy.cs.unlv.edu (Scott Alfter) YYYY
sltheria@cherry.wustl.edu (Seth L Theriault) YYYY
smarry@zooid.guild.org (Marc Moorcroft) NNNN
snash@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Steven E Nash) YYYY
snelson@umaxc.weeg.uiowa.edu (Steven Nelson) NYNY
SPECTOR@Vax2.Concordia.CA (Mitchell Spector) YYYY
sphinx@pro-gateway.cts.com (Counse Broders) YYYY
srogers@tad.eds.com (Steve Rogers) NNNN
ssanders@pro-cajun.cts.com (Steve) YYYY
ST2975@SIUCVMB.SIU.EDU YYYY
stc7@cunixb.cc.columbia.edu (Steven T Chiang) YYYY
stgeorge@pro-algonquin.cts.com (Steve George) YYYY
sysadm@pro-cajun.cts.com (System Administrator) YYYY
szatezal@magnus.acs.ohio-state.edu (Shane M Zatezalo) YYYY
tdslotte@mcs.drexel.edu (Dave Slotter) YYYY
tesitzla@sacam.orEn.ortn.edu (Travis E Sitzlar) YYYY
thes+@cmu.edu ("Seth D. Kadesh") YYYY
thomasg@staff.tc.umn.edu (Thomas D.Gasser) NNNN
tigersharke@pro-algonquin.cts.com (Curt Dox) YYYY
toddpw@cco.caltech.edu (Todd P. Whitesel) YYYY
towel@elcsci.com ("Lee Towe") YYYY
trentc@pro-calgary.cts.com (Trent Corney) YYYY
tribby@hpisrhc.cup.hp.com (Dave Tribby) YYYY
tsavage@ub.d.umn.edu (Tim Savage) YYYY
tye@pro-haven.cts.com (Tye Botting, SysAdmin) NYYN
uerics@mcl.mcl.ucsb.edu YYYY
ULTIMAV@VAX1.Mankato.MSUS.EDU ("Everybody knows!....") YYYY
unknown@apple.com (tuu) YYYY
USR3947A@cbos.uc.edu YY-Y
USTAI@MSUVX1.MEMST.EDU (Ki Bon Riki) YYYY
vandry@CAM.ORG (Phillip Vandry) YYY-
vwoolf@pro-woolf.cts.com (Vet Woolf) YYYY
walter@pro-christ.cts.com (Walter B. Hoye II) YYYY
weasel@pro-cajun.cts.com (Kevin Welch) YYYY
wilkins@cs.ubc.ca (Heath Wilkinson) YYYY
wixer!khym@cactus.org (Dave Huang) YYYY
wrh@physics.wm.edu (William Hall) YYYY
wsgentry@ne3005.reston.ingr.com (Scott Gentry) NYNN
wulf@cip.physik.uni-stuttgart.de (Wulf Hofbauer) YYYY
york@POOL.Informatik.RWTH-Aachen.DE YYYY
yucath@leland.Stanford.EDU YYYN
zcameron@pro-dharma.cts.com (Zachariah Cameron) YYYY
ziridan@echosphere.com ("Daniel Zirin") NNNN
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