Re: RGB to VGA on a IIGS (again)

["Bryan Parkoff" <nospam@nospam.com>]

"Michael J. Mahon" <mjmahon@aol.com> wrote in message 
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> Bryan Parkoff wrote:
>> "mdj" <mdj.mdj@gmail.com> wrote in message 
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>>>On Jun 24, 12:18 am, "Bryan Parkoff" <nos...@nospam.com> wrote:
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>>>>>On Jun 23, 3:57 pm, "Michael J. Mahon" <mjma...@aol.com> wrote:
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>>>>>>mcph...@yahoo.com wrote:
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>>>>>>>I know this has been asked before, but I was wondering if there were
>>>>>>>any new RGB to VGA upscaling converters out that were particularly
>>>>>>>good for this task. The XRGB-2 is no longer available (and was
>>>>>>>pricey).
>>>>
>>>>>>>I would like to do RGB rather than composite to VGA with a GS and a
>>>>>>>viewsonic LCD.
>>>>
>>>>>>Right--if you start with composite, then the result can never be
>>>>>>any better than that, no matter what format you convert to.
>>>>
>>>>>The 'simple' solution is to use an LCD TV with a SCART input on it,
>>>>>and use Roger's IIgs->RGB cable. The results will depend on the
>>>>>quality of the TV.
>>>>
>>>>>I tried this a while back with my TV (A 32" model, a bit inconvenient
>>>>>placing atop an Apple II) and the results were quite acceptable. On my
>>>>>Apple II though, I've now decided to regress to a green phosphor
>>>>>monochrome display. For a non-gamer, this gives the best possible
>>>>>results, but I would certainly like to find a small LCD TV that worked
>>>>>well.
>>>>
>>>>    I would be surprised to see Video (NTSC) to VGA Converter 
>>>> athttp://www.ramelectronics.net/html/video-vga-gvm-2000.html.  I am 
>>>> sure 80
>>>>column is unreadable on VGA screen unless digital filter is used isntead 
>>>>of
>>>>analog.  Do you agree?
>>>
>>>I'd imagine pretty much all these converters use some form of digital
>>>storage.
>>>
>>>80 column text tends to look a little odd, with alternate scanlines
>>>interpreting the pixel widths slightly differently. Readable, but not
>>>particularly clear.
>>>
>>>What's needed is a converter that can lock onto the Apple II's dot
>>>clock...
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>> Matt,
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>>     I agree.  What if I want to use NTSC to VGA Frame Grabber?  I would 
>> want to capture 80 column TEXT and double high resolution screen into JPG 
>> / BMP format, but NTSC to VGA frame grabber picture may not look great 
>> like Video to VGA converter.  You stated like 80 column text tends to 
>> look a little odd.  It might does the same to do with double high 
>> resolution.  What do you think?  NTSC to VGA Frame Grabber is shown on 
>> http://www.sensoray.com/products/2250data.htm.
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> Seems pretty expensive, given the abundance of 720x480 NTSC video
> capture devices on the market--usually for less than $70, and often
> bundled with low-end video editing (and frame capture) software.

Michael,

    It looks like NTSC to VGA Frame Grabber costs $266.00 and capture only 
640x480.  Do you think that it is better than other NTSC to VGA Frame 
GRabber for just less than $70?

Bryan Parkoff