Re: apple iie, electron microscope..musings?

[grent@comcast.net]

mr. brad wrote:
> prev in this group i mentioned i got off ebay a modified apple //e from
> 'dapple systems' it had dials where a keybd should be .an extended keybd,
> accel card, proslot card, mouse card, hi speed scsi card and a couple of red
> shift limited graphic cards etc ..i got all the software docs and disks etc
> ....to start up my mad apple //e science lab...(understanding science would
> probably help..ah heck i'll just wing it)



 I know a good a graduate student at UC Davis currently pursuing a
Ph.D. in Physics. I am a condensed matter theorist. For those who don't
know, Condensed Matter Theory is the theory of solids and liquids.
Condensed = "not gas." Matter is... well, you know.. stuff..
everything. My main focus is the quantum mechanics of solids,
electronic structure, vibrational properties, etc. I'm also interested
in studying highly-correllated materials, and in general, the quantum
mechanics of a many particle system where those particles are strongly
interacting.

n(e) = (e(e-µ)/kT + 1)-1




> anyway ...everything worked..it all fired up with an impressive looking
> scientific screen with mathimatical symbols and other science chat...of
> which i had no idea what it said except something along the line of
> "awaiting input" ...which i assume was the lack of the expected  and prob
> much needed device of the typical mad scientist apple //e lab...the
>
> electron microscope


Gee I thought I it would be bigger. The CNC and the apple II for the
signs or the for lathes for gun making  went past the $1,000 mark.



>
> anyway ..just so you can prove to your friends ..that it prob is the end of
> the world...and it is possible to make your own apple iie science lab..and
> even get a somewhat dangerous device for it....and perhaps make the point of
> scary things sold on ebay.....the below is a link on ebay of a fully working
> electron microscope on ebay with a starting bid of $400
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/Hitachi-S-450-Scanning-Electron-Microscope-SEM_W0QQitemZ320037356984QQihZ011QQcategoryZ71411QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
>
> so....if i HAD $400 (or 4 apple // types in town pitching in $100
> each..unlikely) we could make an actual apple //e science lab with eguip
> needed to make it work....and pursue our mad view of banning any microsoft
> product off the planet...(not linux i don't understand linux but the penguin
> is cute)...insert scary mad scientist laugh here.....

The Money would not be a problem, but the space is. NO ROOM for the
item.



> somehow that whole notion of apple // types and hard science is very
> distrubing to me....(shudder!)

Not sure why Hard science would distrube you. I have seen Apple II
articles, on how they contolled nukes, Eye surgey for correcting vision
before it popular, Venier.Com still makes a lot of the interfaces. Have
a few book marks of them used in all sorts of older science projects.



> anyway the world is safe..i intend not to purchase the above ebay electron
> microscope...but it left me the unsettling thought of .......in the 80's the
> us military used to use apple //e's to guide their medium range missles in
> europe..ie the battle field low end nukes in europe ....maybe they will show
> up on ebay next?...the ultimate apple // collectable?...hey..my apple //
> used to put input to a nuke...*hard to fight that if you were in an ap2
> collector P*ssing contest on who's collection is best>?)
>
> anyway so it goes...and as always i need a life...

Maybe all you need is more ROOM for your hobby.

BTW where is MANDRAKE?  So I can missplace it among my Apple II items.
>
> (leaves computer....has old cistern that can be turned into fall out
> shelter...hmm......mumbles to self ..wanders off
> in general direction of kitchen)
>
> anyway ...
>
> so it goes....my 2c worth (prob overvalued)
> 
> brad
> former sysop lost gonzo bbs