Re: RAM-4-GS testimonials

["Bill Garber" <willy46pa@comcast.net>]

"PZ" <skierpaul@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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: heuser.marcus@freenet.de wrote:
: > On the other hand this all sounds plausible to me (I'm not a hardware
: > guy, mind you) and I was wondering:
: > Have you actually tested a card or judged it by photos or other
: > information? Which hardware doesn't (reliably/sporadically) work with
: > the card?
:
: I got my hands on one at KFest for a couple hours, I stuck it in my
: system and at first it wouldn't wouldn't boot GSOS completely.  As a
: few people know, I was doing quite a bit of accelerator testing/modding
: at the time.  In some brief testing, I couldn't get the system to run
: stable with the Ram4GS above 10mhz with a Zip GSX that always runs rock
: solid at 13mhz with other RAM cards, and couldn't get a TWGS to run
: faster than 11mhz when the thing is always stable at 15mhz with other
: RAM cards.
:
: Looking at the Ram4GS card and the design, the crashes I encountered
: could be a result of any number of things that I've already mentioned
: about the card in addition to the fact that the card doesn't have gold
: plated edge connectors.  If you're going to cut corners, this is yet
: another place where you don't.  Any card with tinned connectors will
: run well for awhile until the fingers start to oxidize, then you'll
: start getting intermittent crashes like there's no tomorrow.  The 10mhz
: and 11mhz "ok" tests were for brief periods, so I'm willing to
: speculate that the Ram4GS probably destabilizes systems with
: accelerators running even at those speeds and slower, but I don't have
: tests to verify it.
:
: Conclusion, the card is introducing noise, ringing or some other
: condition that significantly reduces the operability of accelerators
: which as we know are pretty sensitve in the already noisy environment
: we call the Apple IIGS.
:
: BTW, the system I was using was a ROM 3 w/ a Reactive Computers 200w
: powersupply.  "Other" Ramcards that was referencing: CV Ram(8MB),
: Sequential's RAM GS (4MB), Apple IIGS Memory Expansion Card (1MB).  My
: definition of stable is having a IIGS run for days on end while using
: applications like GS SHK, AWGS, games, etc, without ever crashing.
:
: > And did you mention this to Bill or Vince earlier? If this is so and
: > you got negative reactions or you were ignored I can understand your
: > frustrations to a certain degree.
:
: No I havn't, I didn't know that the card was going back into production
: until Bill's post.  But unless the design is drastically updated I will
: be evangelical about making sure that
: users know that they're buying a questionable product.  I have issues
: with Bill, and about the way he has interacted with other Apple II
: users I know, but that is my perogative.

Paul,

If you documented all of the findings of your testing, email them to me and
I would be more than happy to review them. I don't feel that a couple hours
of testing with accelerators that have been seriously modified are a good
indication of the functionality of my ram card, but I am more than willing
to
listen to what you have to say, in private as it should have been handled in
the first place. In my defense, I have 150 of these cards in circulation,
and
the only ones that have had any problems were ones that actually had
problems,
which we got working well through email support. Only 2 such issues were
encountered. If you want to help me, then great, please do, in private, but,
if you simply wish to start a flame war, then you'll be alone in doing so,
I'll
refuse to respond in the future.  Thank you.

Bill Garber