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Re: Yay! Finally got myself a IIgs!



Jorge ChB wrote:
Michael J. Mahon <mjmahon@aol.com> wrote:


In many ways, the Apple ///
prefigured the monomaniacal obsession that Apple contracted with
the introduction of Jobs other "child", the Mac.


Jobs' children : The apple I would have never been sold if it was not because of Jobs ! The Apple II, whose case look was also (C) Jobs, then the ///,
then the Macs... etc.


I think that the Apple /// says most clearly, "I can design
a computer, too, and it's *not* like the *other* Steve's."


The Apple II, the ///, the Mac... all had no fan / no noise.

What's Jobs fault, that he didn't want to put a fan inside ?
What about "the /// engineering team" ?
What the hell were they being (well) paid for ?
It was possible to fix the ///s afterwards, still without fans !
How can it be ?
Why was it not well engineered from the beginning ?

(Jobs): "engineers, I want a computer without fans because they make
noise and I don't like it"
(sometime later)
(enginners) : "Jobs, here is you computer, we have engineered it, and it
has no fans, as you wanted"
(Jobs): "ok, thanks, nice job, take your money"

(a few months later)

All the Apple ///s are failing, because of bad engineering !

IT'S JOBS' FAULT. HE DID NOT WANT TO PUT A FAN. END OF THE STORY.


Someday someone will write the history of Apple as the struggle
of an ego with a non-combatant engineer.


Ego or whatever, Apple would have not even existed if it were not
because of Jobs.

I largely agree with that statement, but I never said anything
about fans.

I said that Jobs designed the *case* of the Apple ///, which
not only didn't have a fan, it barely had air circulation!

It's a cast metal box with little compartments to put electronics
in.  Ventilation is a *good* thing.  ;-)  Come to think of it,
being able to lift a personal computer is also a good thing...

If you've read much about working for Jobs, you can appreciate
that a "mere engineer" would have a lot of trouble changing
something that Jobs thought was good.

-michael

Parallel computing for 8-bit Apple II's!
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