Re: Help with Apple IIc starup

["Michael J. Mahon" <mjmahon@aol.com>]

Deckard69 wrote:
> Hi Mike !!
> Thanks for your reply ...
> I tried to use The Apple DiskWare System Master DOS 3.3.without any results 
> ... Turned Apple on sounds like continuos tac..tac from the drive for few 
> seconds ... After nothing ... It's normal ???
> Last thing .. When I turn on I see two ( character on the screen (everytime 
> the same position) thta repeat vertically at every return pressed (in 
> command mode ...)

Sounds like you have a problem with the bult-in disk drive in your
IIc.  ;-(  The IIc disk firmware times out after trying to read the
bood sector several times, and quits--which is why it stops trying
to read the disk.

It could be several different things, from the trivial (dirty head)
to something more difficult.  Can you hear the disk drive motor
spinning the disk (different from the seeking noises)?

If the disk motor is running, then it could be a speed problem,
a mechanical problem with the head not in proper position (you
lowered the disk latch, right?), a bad IC, etc., etc.

-michael


> "BluPhoenyx" <bluphoenyx@earthlink.net> ha scritto nel messaggio 
> news:5EpPf.1208$k75.474@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net...
>
> > Deckard69 wrote:
> >
> > > Hi to all !!
> > > I've got today a beautiful Apple IIc with stand and monitor from U.S.A.
> > > I'm testing it and all is okk ... I'm trying to testing also Floppy unit 
> > > drive using Apple IIe Floppy games disk without any results ...
> > > It's my first time with an Apple IIc ... Someone can help me to know if 
> > > there are difference from Apple II and Apple IIc disk drive format ??
> > > At startup of Apple IIc I listen a rumor from floppy (the disk use and 
> > > power led are on), after few seconds nothing....
> > > Maybe I need Prodos Disk to load the Disc Operative Sistem ...
> >
> > At a minimum you will need a DOS 3.3, Pascal or ProDOS bootable floppy 
> > disk.
> >
> > The  original 2c came with a set of floppies. Most were simply fluff but 
> > one was the 2c utilities disk which was quite useful. Assuming you can 
> > boot the IIe via floppy disk, you can use the same boot disks on the 2c.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Mike T.