Re: Disk transfers help please

[Paul Schlyter <pausch@NOSPAMsaaf.se>]

In article <CISdnbvNGbKrRE3fRVn-rw@comcast.com>, willy46pa@comcast.net 
says...
>
>"Mark Frischknecht" <mfrischknecht@san.rr.com> wrote in
>message news:NJ4Ae.10411$3o4.8026@tornado.socal.rr.com...
>
>Well, it's not a big problem. I can reply to them, but it
>is slightly annoying, and strange.
>
>Does anyone else see these as attachments?

I don't....

On one account I read news with trn, which isn't MIME aware
and doesn't know what an attachment is - it merely shows
the post verbatim, including the MIME boundaries and any
eventual Base64 coded attachments.

On another account I use Microplanet Gravity (which is freeware),
which does show the message as text, not as an attachment.

The source of one of Mark's posts looks like this:

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  From X Sat Jan  1 10:10:10 1990
  Article: 218573 of comp.sys.apple2
  Newsgroups: comp.sys.apple2
  Path: merope.saaf.se!newsc.telia.net!masternews.telia.net.!
newspeer2.se.telia.net!newspeer3.se.telia.net!se.telia.net!news.glorb.com!
newsfeed-east.nntpserver.com!nntpserver.com!newsfeed-west.nntpserver.com!
news-west.rr.com!news-feed-01.rdc-kc.rr.com!news.
  rr.com!cyclone2.kc.rr.com!news2.kc.rr.com!tornado.socal.rr.com.POSTED!
53ab2750!not-for-mail
  From: Mark Frischknecht <mfrischknecht@san.rr.com>
  User-Agent: Mozilla Thunderbird 1.0.2 (Windows/20050317)
  X-Accept-Language: en-us, en
  MIME-Version: 1.0
  Newsgroups: comp.emulators.apple2,comp.sys.apple2
  Subject: Re: Disk transfers help please
  References: <42D02DF2.ECE3A356@no.spam> <8gZze.4518$rF5.3477
@tornado.socal.rr.com> <BdmdnSpx5aQqBU3fRVn-3A@comcast.com>
  In-Reply-To: <BdmdnSpx5aQqBU3fRVn-3A@comcast.com>
  X-Enigmail-Version: 0.92.0.0
  OpenPGP: id=0531709B
  Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1;
   protocol="application/pgp-signature";
   boundary="------------enig6DF18E6D1FCB6EBC9F4071D2"
  Lines: 41
  Message-ID: <NJ4Ae.10411$3o4.8026@tornado.socal.rr.com>
  Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 08:10:21 GMT
  NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.91.226.92
  X-Complaints-To: abuse@rr.com
  X-Trace: tornado.socal.rr.com 1120983021 66.91.226.92 (Sun, 10 Jul 2005 
01:10:21 PDT)
  NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2005 01:10:21 PDT
  Organization: Road Runner High Speed Online http://www.rr.com
  Xref: merope.saaf.se comp.emulators.apple2:24634 comp.sys.apple2:218573

  This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156)
  --------------enig6DF18E6D1FCB6EBC9F4071D2
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
  Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

  Bill Garber wrote:
  > Mark, he has no serial port on the Apple IIe, and
  > why do all of your posts come up as attachments?
  > 
  > Apple II Forever, Apple II Together
  > Bill @ GarberStreet Enterprizez
  > ---------------------------------------------
  > Web Site - http://garberstreet.netfirms.com
  > HOME OF THE RAM-4-GS
  > ---------------------------------------------
  > Email - willy46pa@comcast.net
  > ---------------------------------------------
  > 
  > "Mark Frischknecht" <mfrischknecht@san.rr.com> wrote in message
  > news:8gZze.4518$rF5.3477@tornado.socal.rr.com...
  > 
  > 

  UMM I dont know It should not be I do use Open PGP with thunderbird and
  that might be doing it

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  Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc"
  Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature
  Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="signature.asc"

  -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
  Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (MingW32)
  Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org

  iD8DBQFC0NfU5JcKgQUxcJsRAsMlAJ9BQbUjbU6QrHnPHohhHMBbamJzbACfWCX8
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  =w2we
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  --------------enig6DF18E6D1FCB6EBC9F4071D2--

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I suspect your newsreader gets confused by the boundary, but his post
seems OK according to MIME standards: the first body part is text/plain
and should therefore be interpreted as the message, not an attachment.

After the header and before the first boundary, this appears though:

  This is an OpenPGP/MIME signed message (RFC 2440 and 3156)

That's a comment and should be suppressed by the mail/newsreader,
according to MIME standards.  But perhaps that comment line confuses
your news reader, making it believe the comment is the message?

OTOH there's no point in using MIME if you don't intend to add
attachments, or use some exotic character encoding.  So hte
best thing Mark could do is to turn off MIME encoding on his
newsreader when creating posts.  By doing that, newsreaders which
seems a bit buggy in handling MIME encoded posts will appear
less confusing to their users.


>Apple II Forever, Apple II Together
>Bill @ GarberStreet Enterprizez
>---------------------------------------------
>Web Site - http://garberstreet.netfirms.com
>HOME OF THE RAM-4-GS
>---------------------------------------------
>Email - willy46pa@comcast.net
>---------------------------------------------
>
>
>

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