Re: Why were my auctions cancelled?

[pausch@saaf.se (Paul Schlyter)]

In article <Kp6dnUMitN-0Fh7dRVn-uw@comcast.com>,
Bill Garber <willy46pa@comcast DOT net> wrote:
 
> "Paul Schlyter" <pausch@saaf.se> wrote in message
> news:c60002$2ne8$1@merope.saaf.se...
>> In article <vaWdnbJa0KZtLx_d4p2dnA@comcast.com>,
>> Bill Garber <willy46pa@comcast DOT net> wrote:
>>
>>> "Paul Schlyter" <pausch@saaf.se> wrote in message
>>> news:c5tg82$1pp7$1@merope.saaf.se...
>>>> In article <4081a1f2$1_5@corp.newsgroups.com>,
>>>> Exegete  <millers@noneofyourbusiness.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> This thread points out one thing - Apple will defend
>>>>> their intellectual property rights, even when they
>>>>> aren't making one thin dime from selling them. So,
>>>>> considering the thoughts in another thread about
>>>>> creating a new "clone" of the II to keep the hardware
>>>>> alive, one had better not copy the ROMs, and then try
>>>>> to sell the machine. Unless, of course, you copy the
>>>>> Laser or Franklin ROMs, neither of these companies, if
>>>>> they still exist, seem inclined to fight like Apple is.
>>>>
>>>> If so, why hasn't Apple already sued do defend the
>>>> Apple II ROM's?  Images of these ROM's have been
>>>> available on the Net for a decade or so, so Apple
>>>> should have had plenty of time to decide to sue....
>>>
>>> Probably due to them being abandonware. As long as
>>> no one is selling them or anything that uses them,
>>> then they have no cause to be concerned. I haven't
>>> seen any emulators for sale, yet, so why should they
>>> care.
>>
>> Then you haven't seen Apple Oasis, an Apple II emulator which
>> is shareware (i.e. the author want some money from you if you
>> decide to continue using it past the trial period).  Apple
>> Oasis is the only Apple II emulator which also properly
>> emulates a Z80 card, enabling you to run Apple CP/M on it.
> 
> Yes, I have seen it, and shareware is a good way of getting
> around copyright infringing. It gives the user the option of
> donating something to keep the program in existance, rather
> than becoming and actual charge for continued use.
 
Thus this is a case where someone makes money on a product which
uses the Apple ROM's (I know this because I've paid the shareware
fee myself - I think it was well worth it), and yet Apple has
taken no legal action.
 
> Does the program cease to function after the trial period?
 
Nope -- it's not "trialware" but "crippelware": the trial version
ceases to work 10 minutes after it's started.  So if you're content
restarting the emulator at least every 10 minute you want to use it,
you can use it as long as you want without paying the shareware fee.
 
> If so, then the creator is requiring payment, making the product
> commercial. If not, then it is up to the user whether he/she
> wishes to donate funds to continue development. There is a
> very great difference between a request for funds and a
> demand for them.
 
And what do you think Oasis is?  It's not fully operational from
the beginning, until you've paid the fee.
 
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