Re: Apple, Jobs, and the irony of it

[x@x.x (Granville Waiters' Ghost)]

In article <20030823180234.00586.00000492@mb-m02.aol.com>,
supertimer@aol.com (Supertimer) wrote:

> Richard Kilpatrick <richard@dmc12.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> >Supertimer <supertimer@aol.com> writes:
> >
> >>It is just that it is very funny that IBM designed it.
> >>In the PC world, this is no surprise at all.  But
> >>remember, in the Apple world until recently IBM
> >>was the big evil "Big Brother."
> >
> >Recently being 1992ish, of course - IBM had a lot of input into the 
> >original Power architecture with Motorola. We're all familiar with the 
> >hammer thrown at the screen, and at the time it was accurate. Now IBM 
> >has had to move with the times. Apple isn't a garage company, IBM isn't 
> >a monopoly.
> 
<snip>

> Yes, around 1992 IBM was already a partner in the
> PowerPC line.  But that is the same as Apple now
> implementing AMD's HyperTransport technology in
> the G5 platform.  Like IBM then, AMD's contribution
> is invisible.
> 
> The irony is not that IBM played a role in the G5.
> The irony is that Apple is bragging by claiming IBM
> as such a great partner, an entity it once "threw the
> hammer" at.


Ugh! Please stop already! 

Do you not remember the big press conference with Sculley
and IBM's CEO Guy? They not only "cooperated" on PowerPC,
they formed two spin-off companies that they entirely 
funded together (though later brought in other partners):
Kaleida Labs and Taligent.

Taligent was intended for nothing less than to write an
entirely new operating system based on object-oriented
principles.

If you haven't seen the last ten or fifteen years, yes,
the IBM-Apple partnership is quite strange. But they've
cooperated in multi-million dollar deals, met each
other at big-time press conferences, shook hands, and
announced that they were proud to be in bed together.