Re: AppleTalk

["M. Pender" <mpender@hotmail.com>]

Andy McFadden <fadden@fadden.com> wrote in message
news:zk4Ua.5221$dk4.230341@typhoon.sonic.net...
> M. Pender <mpender@hotmail.com> wrote:
> > I've set up my system for filesharing from a PC, but the Apple IIgs
(client)
> > doesn't see the shared volumes from the PC under PCMACLAN.  Its hard to
> > troubleshoot without a working machine to use as a measuring stick, so
I'm
> > asking for advice/feedback until I can get an AppleTalk-capable
Macintosh
> > for troubleshooting.
>
> Any Mac that can act as an AppleShare server on an Ethernet connection
> should help.  I use a Quadra 650CD (purchased for $50 from eBay so I
> could play with HFS CD-ROMs), connected through an AAUI Ethernet adapter.
> Configuring it as an AppleShare server let me verify that my IIgs was
> working, so I could focus on the Linux/netatalk side.

I purchased a PowerMac 7300 from eBay to act as a fileserver/printserver
and general peripheral for the IIgs.  The 7300 has some kind of PC
compatibility
card that should allow it to do more than merely read IBM floppies.

I just haven't received it yet.  I thought I might be able to get the
AppleTalk
interface working with just the localtalk/ethernet bridge.  Many years ago,
when
I actually made a regular practice of assembling hybrid DEC/PC/Apple
networks
getting the Macs to talk to each other and the printer was a piece of
cake--but
I've never tried to network a IIgs before.

> > Apple IIgs running GS/OS 5.0.4
> > - booting from an Appleshare 3.5" floppy (configured as per
> > http://src.mit.edu/apple2gs.html)
>
> Interesting choice.  Not 6.0.1?

I picked up a copy of 5.0.4 from a local user group.  I have a copy of 6.0.1
on
my PC, but there's the problem of how to get the file from the PC to the
IIgs.

(Sung to the sound of "there's a hole in the bucket, dear Liza, dear
Liza..." :-)

> > PC running PC MACLAN File Server (demo version)
> > - server name: PC MACLAN
> >
> > IIgs Control Panel CDA:
> > - user name: DEMO
> >
> > So far I have yet to get the IIgs does not see the PC file server across
> > AppleTalk.  I've tried direct cabling, cabling through a crossover, etc.
but
> > no joy.
>
> This I haven't used.

I remember you mentioned running 'netatalk', but IIRC that runs under Linux.

I've searched the Google archives back to ~1990 and found that there are
various other programs for the PC to enable it to play server on a localtalk
network, but they used real-mode drivers and were written for PC-based
localtalk cards.

In the process I've come across some promising fragments.  Apparently
WindowsNT supports services for Macs connected to a PC network, as does the
full package of Novell NetWare.

Windows 98 ships with cut-down versions of the drivers for netware (mostly
client-side) and some ODI drivers that I haven't tried.  I'm hopeful that
there is some combination of Windows 98 drivers that would allow direct
integration of a IIgs into a Microsoft network.

Unfortunately, network driver support is one of the most fragile areas of
the Windows operating system (anyone who doesn't believe me should try
installing two ethernet cards in a laptop at the same time).  Its not a
project one should attempt until after making a full backup of their hard
drive.

Take care,

- Mike