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Re: Second Sight



Simon Williams wrote:

Exegete <millers@noneofyourbusiness.com> wrote:

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Is a PowerPC Mac running MacOS 7.x still a Mac? I think so.
Is an OS X Mac still a Mac. Perhaps, perhaps not.
Would a IIgs with an Intel/AMD or PowerPC cpu running GS/OS or ProDOS
still a II? I think so.
Is a PowerPC Mac running Bernie a II? It doesn't seem so to me.



To be really nit-picky, the main requirement for an Apple II being an
Apple II is that it came off Apple's assembly-line with an Apple II logo
on the case ;-)
Now if you could add a USB-to-7-Apple-II-expansion-slots adaptor to that
PPC running Bernie, then I guess you could call it an Apple II
*compatible*.
On the other hand, building an expansion card with a G4 or Pentium
processor on it would really be no different than installing a CP/M card
- it's still an Apple II.


Exactly.



also, Michael J. Mahon wrote:

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I also really appreciate these older systems because they are "frozen
in time", and that makes doing things with them an exercise in finesse,
or "resource-constrained" programming (which I, personally, love).


I don't disagree with you Michael, as far as the above is concerned.
I suppose what I like about the II, in terms of automobiles, is I like collecting classic machines, and using classic software on them, as well as seeing the same pushed to their limits (and beyond?) by software wizards. But I also like hotrodding them. Pushing the hardware to it's limits and then finding ways to make it even hotter. Which, of course, then allows those with the skills and talents to do even more magic with their code.
Your point, not quoted above, about GS/OS is well taken. How nice it would be if there were a DOS that was fairly simple, (like ProDOS) but also would allow full use of the full resources of the IIgs. 

Roy




This same resource-limitation and frozen state (actually I'd rather call
it a "glacial crawl") also make the Apple II a very accessible system
for the novice to tinker with.

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I should probably say that my own feeling is that the //e was the
culmination of the classic Apple II line, and the IIgs is its Rococo
decline. 


I would have thought it more of a post-modern thing... ;-)

-SW





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