Re: Is this true?

[jwolf6589@aol.comnospam (JWolf6589)]

And why is it that many in western cultures are so obsessed with materialisim,
and having the latest and greatest all the time?  Whats the point, if it works
why fix it?  

I oppose many western values such as having the latest and greatest of
everything, and some western values are  not valued in other cultures.  Softare
companies threaten not to release apps for me, when I am using an OS only 2
years old!  Its not like I have a 1989 Mac OS! No I have OS 9.1 for goodness
sake!  It's not like I cant use X, its that I choose not to use X there is a
difference.  

No I have not taken any programming classes, but I have taken computer support
and other IT classes as well as studied other cultures. 

Yes people in the computer industry are more concerned about building new
technologies then they are about supporting their products, or ridding all the
bugs out of their stuff.   I should take that attitude when I write papers.  I
should be more concerned about writing new papers, when there are plenty of
errors in my older papers, which I will not fix, because I have a new idea.  


<< Subject: Re: Is this true?
From: "Bryan Villados" news002@macgeek.org 
Date: Wed, Nov 20, 2002 11:51 PM
Message-id: <sg0D9.22797$%k2.7095985@twister.socal.rr.com>

It's true that it's imposible to install 8.x or earlier on a G4 Power
Macintosh. So JWolf6589, you made your point. However, "impossible" is not a
bad thing. Actually, in this scenario, I think it's a GOOD thing. It's a
sign of innovation. The point Byron was making earlier is not the VARIETY of
operating systems on the same partition, but rather the ABILITY to do so in
the first place. So he is correct in his statements.

Here's my rant... If Apple wrote Mac OS X to be downward compatible as far
back as System 7.1, the OS would be totally bloated, it probably would
require much more RAM and more hard disk space, would still have the same
limitations like memory management and such that you're trying to get away
from in the first place, and we'd be stuck with modem ports, printer ports,
disk port to support the 20MB hard disk, ADB, the 16-pin port to support my
Apple II+ joystick, and >ugh< the 3.5-inch micro diskette.

Why are people so hung up on having today's technology running yesterday's
technology? Sorry for stealing Microsoft's line here, but isn't the goal of
technology to be innovative? Doesn't innovation require the product to loose
what was preventing it from being innovative in the first place? This is why
we still use Apple IIs and other legacy computers today... Some of us do
this via emulators, others like myself still run the actual hardware. We use
Apple IIs because it was designed to run things like DOS 3.3 and ProDOS, and
it does it well. If I want to run Zaxxon, I'll pull out my Apple IIe and run
Zaxxon. If I want to run PageMaker 4.0, I'll pull out my Mac Color Classic
that runs System 7.1 and run PageMaker 4.0. I don't expect Mac OS X to run
it. When I think of System 7.1, something like a Macintosh IIci comes to
mind, not a G4 Power Mac!

Downward compatibility with legacy technologies also cause instabilities and
expectations that cannot be met. If you've ever taken a software engineering
course, you would understand this. Exponentially (using methods like Michael
Jackson's rules of software testing {not the singer, the computer
scientist}), it would take YEARS and YEARS to test any future release of an
operating system. Corporations like Microsoft and Apple do not have this
much time to spend on testing just to be downward compatible. And, if a
company like Apple committed to have its OS downward compatible with
something like System 7.1, it would be a technical support nightmare!!! So
let's focus on being compatible with the latest releases of software, enjoy
a true memory management system, and let the people who want to stick with
their old apps and games keep their old computers and operating systems.
There's nothing wrong with that! Hundreds of Apple II users can't be wrong.

That's my opinion, but I could be wrong.

--- Bryan


"JWolf6589" <jwolf6589@aol.comnospam> wrote in message
20021120140036.10484.00000186@mb-cg.aol.com">news:20021120140036.10484.00000186@mb-cg.aol.com...
> Prove me wrong.  Here is a task for you, and I want to see screen shots or
> movie files of your evidence that you completed the task.
>
> With your new G4, I want you to install system 7.1.x, system 7.5.x, system
> 8.1.x, system 9.x and system OSX all on one Macintosh and I want you to be
able
> to boot to each of these OSes with ease.
>
> As I recall Apple has made it so its impossible (without tweaking with 3rd
> party garbage or with resedit to boot old Oses on a newer Mac).







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