Steve Lichter of Apple Elite II is a member of Ranbows end GS...emaiul him here. Though I hear 3.1 is not for sale except for current customers. I have working copy of METAL if you're interested in that. ALexey .~!~.~!~.~!~.~!~.~!~.~!~.~!~.~!~.~!~.~!~.~!~.~!~.~!~. ~ The Rainbow's End Internet Gateway ! telnet://rainbowsendgs.no-ip.com ~ User FidoNet address: 1:117/114