Re: ANN: Retiring from A2 world - Good Bye All!

[Stephen Shaw <stephen@apple2.org.invalid.za>]

On Wed, 12 Jun 2002 10:30:11 -0700, Paul Grammens wrote:

>
> "Gary R. Utter" <utter@syndicomm.com> wrote
>>
>> You can think what you want, but I was THERE.  Tom and his little crew
>> quite literally drove away developers (a lot of them hobbyists, yes,
>> but developers nonetheless).
>
> I wonder if Tom could bring Micro$oft to its knees...  nah, Bill Gates
> thrives with piracy many orders of magnitude greater than Tom ever
> generated.  What really drove Apple II developers away was people like me.
> I bought my first computer in 1990. I considered buying a used Apple II for
> $500, but instead bought a new 386-25 clone for $2000. Even to my
> uneducated eye, the Apple II was seriously obsolete, and my computer-savvy
> friends didn't even consider it to be in the running. Oh yeah, piracy was
> rampant in the PC world, yet PC developers thrived.  Got that? It was
> obsolete hardware, not piracy that led to the demise of the Apple II.

Aah, but what was the REASON for the obsolescence? Apples neglect of the II 
line whilst the Mac was the darling of Jobs's eye. Did this not lead to the 
break up between Jobs and Wozniak?
	Apple made 2 mistakes:
	1) They did not make the Apple II openly available to the market like
		Philips did with the Compact Cassette, instead they prosecuted
		clone manufacturers.
	2) To much squabbling and in fighting at Cupertino instead of
		concentrating on developing the product.

	As for Jobs now - the Mac is still a niche product and is likely to
fade in the next 5 years due to Linux, Windows, BeOS, FreeBSD and others. Face
it the Mac is to locked into its own world to survive outside it.


>
>>
>> What it really REALLY comes down to is this. You don't know what you
>> are talking about. You have walked in here well past the middle of the
>> movie, and while you think you know what's going on, you don't.
>
> I think I have a good handle on the reality of  today. I think you're out
> of touch with the reality of today.
>
>> Those of
>> us who have been in the Apple II world since the mid '80s think you're
>> pretty much of a fool. That doesn't make you a bad person, but it
>> doesn't get you a lot of respect either.
>
> I think those of you who are still acting like it's the mid '80's are
> pretty much fools.
> It doesn't make you bad people, but it doesn't get you a lot of respect
> either.
> It's 2002. Next year will be 10 yrs since Apple stopped making Apple II's.
> It's a hobbiest platform, with no economic value.  It's still fun, and of
> historical interest, but there's very little money in it. Get over it.
> -Paul

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