Re: Don't buy into pre-orders for Apple II products

[Conrad <conrad.russo@gmail.com>]

>This isn't google.
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>It's not obvious who you are talking to, since you haven't bothered >quoting whoever you are replying to. Just because at google everything >is on the same page and likely in threaded sequence doesn't mean >everyone sees it that way.
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>You just come across as talking to yourself when you don't quote.
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>Michael

My appologies, I'm on my cellphone and I thought it quoted automatically. I will do it manually from now on. Let me repost.

>> Conrad did at an early stage provide some very useful information: > - The boards were to be made by a “no-name” Chinese manufacturer, and the name of this manufacturer would not be shared with any of us for further quality assurance > - No prototype was made and received to verify the skills and trust of the vendor in question. The production process was described, but no pictures of the product were shared > - The only financial backing was Conrad himself and his “one man business”, requiring pre-funding from the rest of us to move on. > > All these are clear red lights! >

>All of which I pointed out, expressed doubt about and conrad took as a >personal attack.

>> Was it then really fair that Conrad should carry all the risk?

>Yes, he should carry all the risk because he carries all of the profits.

> > Looking at the messages that has been posted I must admit I find some of them rather unpleasant to read. Yes, Conrad has certainly failed big time in providing sufficient information. But starting to encourage people to contact his wife, call the police, or other similar actions is certainly something I would not do. >

>When someone collects a bunch of money, provides no/nebulous >information, disappears for weeks on end and STILL has nothing to >show for it.... then yes, people are well within their rights to leverage >any legal mechanism to obtain satisfaction.

>Distasteful or not, it is fair and reasonable.

>You seem to forget that the ONLY person who hasn't fulfilled ANY >promises to date is Conrad. The people complaining about the current >state of affairs are not at fault.

You are right that there is no blame on anyone but myself and others are not at fault for complaining that things are behind schedule or that I was sporradic with communication. I do find it interesting that you say I am the only one profiting from this venture... For one I already said I'm taking a small loss on each card but for the sake of arguement let's say I'm breaking even. That's not taking a profit... Even putting finance aside though, wouldn't the community profit from new accelerators being available? I'm not trying to get into an arguement with you or provoke you, I'm just trying to understand why you'd say that...