Re: 1977 apple II goes for $4716.66 on ebay!!!

[Kevin <kevin@hackaday.com>]

On Wednesday, January 16, 2013 12:15:34 AM UTC-6, nyder wrote:
> Wow, that really sucks.   I've lost a bunch of stuff in a storage unit myself because I got behind on payments and they were dicks about me getting caught up.  But in the end, it was my fault for getting behind on payments.   Didn't lose any Apple stuff, but lost a bunch of Amiga stuff, comic book collection.
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> Last year I had a problem with where I live because I stupidly missed a month of rent.   I went to pay it on the next month, but they sent it back because it didn't have some late payment with it, then they started doing legal proceedings to vacate me for non payment.   I had to end up paying an extra $300 for their lawyer fees, plus the rent, all at once or I would of lost my place.
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> Granted, it's my fault for missing the rent payment, but making it such a pain to pay them back and so quick to pull out the lawyers is a really dick move.
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> But guess what?  I will never miss a rent payment again.
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> On Tuesday, January 15, 2013 9:50:14 PM UTC-8, Paul Hagstrom wrote:
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> > >> Just thought I would Post this here for discussion...
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> > >> http://www.ebay.com/itm/251210777240?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649 
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> > >> A google search found one of these early 1977 models went for over 
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> > >> I find it surprising these are selling for that much.  I remember back 
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> > >> in the 90's these old apples were being thrown away by the hundreds.  
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> > >> Wish I had a few of them now...
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> > > The same seller sold four Apple ][s, for a total over $6800.  The one I 
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> > > was interested in was the last one to go, early 1978 Apple ][ with 
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> > > later motherboard (but ceramic / gold cap RAM in two of three rows), 
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> > > and it included a Vista A800 8 inch floppy controller.  It went for 
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> > > (later rev3/rev4 ][s) went for $600 and $500.
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> > > The one that sold for $1025 had the keyboard necessary to fix the one 
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> > > that sold for $4700(keycap style power light)... I wonder if it was the 
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> > Right, this was a rev 0 board, and people spotted it.  The going price 
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> > However: It turns out there is some controversy with these.  This was 
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> > actually from Sellam Ismail's collection -- the owner of the warehouse 
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> > there may be blame for everyone involved, but the bottom line is that 
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> > the huge collection is getting passed out on eBay at pretty low prices 
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> > A mess -- regardless of whether Sellam gets them back, deserves to, 
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> > whatever, the idea that some of this old stuff could wind up destroyed 
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yea it sucks, but its not like he did not know he was not paying them, or breaking rules

honestly I see many of these storage sheds full of computers as toxic waste dumps and that can also cause problems as you have a X amount of space jam packed full of rotting electronics oozing gook all over the place with the horder/owner never even looking at the boxes