Re: Source Code for OS?

[olcott <olcott@qwest.net>]

Paul Schlyter wrote:

> In article <3A82C6D1.E8A2B687@qwest.net>, olcott  <olcott@qwest.net> wrote:
>
> > Paul Schlyter wrote:
> >
> >> In article <3A822F22.214626BE@qwest.net>, olcott  <olcott@qwest.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Truth itself is the final abiter...
> >>
> >> Of course ... and that's why the scientific method has been so very
> >> successful: it queries Nature itself about facts, trying to rely as
> >> little as possible on human interpretation.  And in trials, technical
> >> evidence is considered more reliable than the storys told by
> >> witnesses.
> >
> > As I have said before Inductive inference is not reliable.
>
> It's not infallible, of course, but it's the most reliable method
> we have.  If that isn't reliable enough, nothing else will be either.
>

Deduction using Pure Semantics (English as a
mathematical formalism).

>
> > According to Hinduism all of science is fasle, only
> > magic is real... (Hindu Maya, paraphrase)...
>
> If so, why do the Hindu's appear on the Internet?  They ought to believe
> the Internet does not exist, or at least is noting to care about....
>
> > Killing a fig tree in anger and spite for no useful purpose is not
> > at all an accurate analogy to killing a tree for its wood.
>
> That fig tree was perhaps "sacrificed"?  The bible is full if
> sacrifices, mostly of small lambs which have done no-one any harm.
>
> >> So how are we going to translate "anger", "love", etc into
> >> measureable quantities so we can bypass human subjectivity and obtain
> >> objective measures, to get at "the truth" directly.  Should we
> >
> > Anger can be discerned from Kindness in the same way,
> > and to the same degree that cold can be discerned from hot.
> > Whneved someonme is pounding their fists in your face,
> > their anger is utterly apparent.
>
> So if I'm not pounding my fists in your, or anyone elses,
> face, then you conclude I'm not angry?
>
> Should "anger" be defined as the act of pounding your fists in
> the face of others?
>

This is one example of the fruits of anger...

>
> >> consider e.g.  adrenaline levels above a specific threshold value in
> >> our bodies as "evil"?  If so, should it then too be punishable, e.g.
> >> like if we were caught with illegal drugs in our blood?
> >>
> >> So the question remains: who, or what, should be the arbitrer?
> >> "Truth itself" is useless here because "truth itself" cannot be
> >> queried.
> >
> > There exists a mathematical mapping from the term {anger}
> > to the expressed emotion, likewise for {Love}...
>
> I think your mapping is too simple-minded.  A lot of people express
> their anger in other ways than pounding their fists in the face of
> others.
>

Your point was that anger could not be objectively
discerned, I have proven otherwise with a single
counter-example. If you would have said that anger
can not always be objectively discerned, this would
have been another point entirely.

>
>
> > In your attempt make sure that it says that scripture says thats
> > scripture itself is the word of God.
>
> Roy already looked it up....  Anyway, I'm perfectly aware that the
> argument "the bible is the word of god because the bible says the

And also a false argument because the bible never
says that scripture is the actual word of God, merely
words inspired by God...

>
> bible is the word of god" is a circular argument.  If you're inside
> that circle, you'll be stuck there - then you're a believer.  And if
> you're not inside that circle, you'll find little reason to enter it.
>
> I merely wanted to point out that you were wrong when you claimed
> the bible nowhere said it was the word of god - it does.
>

Roy merely quoted the same verses that I already
referred to... The bible NEVER says this scripture
is the word of God... It doesn'y even say that
scripture itself is true... Christ mentioned a
question, not a statement about this... If scripture
can not be broken...

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