Re: Help! Apple IIc+ with no working diskettes

["Simon Biber" <simon@basilisk2.cjb.net>]

If you have a working null-modem then the transfer of Prodos directly should
be feasible without needing to go the 3.3 then ADT path which requires a
5.25" drive.

The problem is that I don't know of any dump files of Prodos... As I
understand it, Prodos occupies the area from C000 to FFFF, which needs to be
accessed through bank-switching because that is the ROM area. Is that right?

Simon. (also a newbie to Apples)

>      The usual from-scratch route is to first transfer DOS 3.3 via a NULL
modem
> connection using a plain Text send at a low baud rate (300 baud) from the
PC
> running a telecom utility such as Hyperterm. No Apple II telecom program
is
> needed because, with IN#2 the send from the PC just 'types in' the code.
>
>      IN#2 says get character input via an input device associated with
Slot 2.
> On Apple II's, Slot 2 is usually associated with either a serial card
plugged
> into Slot 2 or (on the //c, IIc+, and IIgs) with a built-in serial port.
(The
> info for setting up the transfer is included in the DOS 3.3 transfer
docs.)
> For a IIc+, you can use
>
>      Of course, to transfer DOS 3.3, you need to have a 5.25" drive
connected
> to your Apple II with a 5.25" DD (double density-- HD will not work)
diskette
> in the drive. Unlike ProDOS, DOS 3.3 is tied to 5.25" media.
>
>      With a bootable DOS 3.3 disk, you can create more bootable DOS 3.3
> diskettes using the INIT command. (See info about DOS 3.3 INIT in the FAQs
at
> http://home.swbell.net/rubywand/Csa2DOSMM.html#007.)  One of these new DOS
3.3
> disks can be used to receive ADT v1.22-- the transfer process is like the
one
> used for DOS 3.3.
>
>      Once ADT is running on the Apple II, it can talk to ADT running on
the PC
> (adt.exe) and you have a fairly fast way (e.g. 9600 baud or 19,200 baud)
to
> transfer 5.25" .dsk disk image files from PC to Apple II. Everything you
need
> to bootstrap up to a system running ProDOS which can transfer all kinds of
> files is available on 5.25" .dsk image files.
>
>      Whether or not you want to try the from-scratch method outlined
above, at
> least one 5.25" drive is very nice to have (if not quite an absolute
> necessity).  A good person to contact in order to purchase a drive that
will
> plug into your IIc+ is Steve Buggie:
>
> Stephen Buggie (505-863-2390; buggie@unm.edu) sells the famous Buggie
Power
> Supplies, Buggie Drives, and does disk drive conversions
>
> Be sure to specify that you want a 5.25" drive that will plug into a IIc+.
>
>
>
>      The simplest way to get a diskette or two which can boot ProDOS and
give
> you access to important disk management and telecom utilities is to visit
a
> local Apple II club. If you can't find one, the next best bet is to
contact
> someone here via email and offer to pay the costs of sending the disks.