Re: LANceGS Ethernet Card: First Look

[Roy and/or Janet Miller <millers@inetnebr.com>]

**** **** wrote:

> My quick total comes to $34.24. The flash rom is 4 dollarish, so it all
> hinges on 65c816's for $12. I've seen hints that they cost $6 apiece, but
> for all I know, that is in qty 10,000. Of course, may find we can go with a
> cheaper CPLD, but if we do go with this particular model, the designer
> assures me he could add an IDE hard drive interface for practically zero
> added cost. We might come in over $50, but its gonna be close. In other
> words, go f&*^ yourself. I'm not some price-gouging m*&^%f#$%^& like every
> vendor in the hobbyist computer market is,

Oh, so we see what John thinks of the VERY few people who still bother to try to
supply hardware to the tiny Apple II market. This is the attitude that is a
large part of why the Apple II has so little new hardware or software.

> I'm just another guy who decided
> to see if this was doable without actually being in business to do it. If
> a##licks like you don't appreciate the time that I and several other
> generous folks have already put into this, and the time we will put into it
> from this point on, the you really are a degenerate soulless little freak
> that can't possibly enjoy anything having to do with the Apple//.

Unwarranted assumptions there Johnny boy. Your card is still vapor, and you've
been trashing one that is finished, debugged, and ramping up for taking orders.
If you don't want people talking trash about your efforts, then don't do the
same.

> Go away.
>     Oh, another thing, while coding for the Apple// is something new for me,
> I could write any network app I choose to in a night.

Perhaps, perhaps not. I'm not a programmer, so I wouldn't know. But I do know
the proper answer to your boast: Put up, or shut up.

> Let me guess, you
> write VB database apps for a living? Or maybe you have even less talent than
> that.

And what talent have you shown the Apple II world John? Other than writing a lot
of posts, and talking trash about other people's projects? Where are your Apple
II programs?

I'd like to see your card get finished. I'd like to see it be a success, and to
see software support for it. but it won't happen by talk, especially not dissing
other people/projects. May I suggest that you drop the keyboard and take up your
soldering iron and start creating your own prototype. Debug it, post jpegs of
it, let someone else try it out and post their honest impressions as Sheppy has
on A2Central.com. You can shut up the criticism by doing, instead of talking.
And that kind of silence feels good.

Eirene,

Roy

>
>
> Eat shit,
> John Oyler
> http://aIIethernet.tripod.com/
> jojo4@va.mediaone.net